Mkoll wrote:I took a brief look at the 13 saṃghādisesas on this site but couldn't find it. Can you tell me where it is?Cittasanto wrote:Anyhow it is a Dukkata offence found in the first Sanghadisesa.
It's interesting to note that Saṅghādisesā 1 is a rule specifically about the emission of semen, and the dukkaṭa requires the emission of semen. The lesser penalty appears to be due to a lack of physical effort to bring about the result.Bhikkhu Vibhaṅga: Saṅghādisesā 1 wrote: At one time a certain monk, being lustful, stared at the private parts of a woman and semen was emitted. … “There is no offence entailing suspension. But when filled with lust one should not stare at the private parts of a woman. If one does, there is an offence of bad conduct.”
Another interesting consideration is that while Saṅghādisesā 1 is a rather serious offense for monks, it is not necessarily contrary to the five precepts at all. A dukkaṭa is minor compared to a saṅghādisesā offense, and so in the context of the five precepts this appears to mean it would be minor relative to a non-offense.
While the five precepts are a matter of virtue (AN 8.25), watching with passion and lust would seem to be a matter of sense restraint (MN 107).