Killing a yakkha not parajika offence

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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sentinel wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 3:49 am
confusedlayman wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:34 pm

but in other view, bhutan king child is a rebirth of nalanda master. if naladanda master died, he should be deva or brahma which means his next human existance should be after many bigbangs. but bhutan prince said his former existance in past lives is nalanda master so he took many human births like more than 10 human birth straight? it is confusing and hence i am not about to change my profile name :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Sometimes between one birth and another is it span between few hundred years or couple of decades . Not necessarily an immediate birth took place .
Perhaps you could rename your profile as Unconfused man .
Resting phase between two rebirth cannot be discerened.

it is logically impossible unless u subscribe to atman theory/ subtle existance theory
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Killing a yakkha not parajika offence
I might be off topic but let me explain my family experience in the way we deal with them.

You Don't have to kill a yakkha. You don't kill sentient beings.
(In Islam they are known as genie and in Christians the anti-Christ ... etc as they categorise them into one category only)

Yakkha does not really bother people unless people bother them knowingly or unknowingly or they have been order to bother human.

To keep them at bay you can report them or banish them (send them away) as all yakkha have to live within in their own societal rule set.

You report them to their superior etc or the yakkha in charged if you know where the yakkha comes from. Their society is hierarchical and rules are strict but you do get some bad ones, like human, that will break the rules then face the consequences. Their punishment is severe and very long as they have very long lifespan.

You can also banish them by reciting verse. My understanding is recitation is a form of explaining or reminding them the consequences of their actions and a form of enhancing your "energy" level (improve your concentration ... am still researching this). Or you can reason with them if you are truly mindful. i.e. if you are "clean" or as person who have not sinned (never break precepts).

Just like the logic of karma if they break the rules they too will incur the karma "retribution".

The following are the possibilities that you have to confront a yakkha ...

1. Both of you have met in the past lives and one of you (you or yakkha) is not letting go and continue to seek revenge without knowing.
2. The yakkha succumbs to temptation by carrying out deeds order by someone (most likely human).
3. You have unknowingly offended the yakka.
4. The yakka is being yakka to bother you because you are weak. (like the behaviour of a bully)

Of all the above 4 possibilities 3 and 4 are easier to deal with, while 2 can be rather hard as the yakkha is under order to target you. If you have 1 then you just have to bear with it by generating more good merit in the hope that the yakkha will go away.

If I am not mistaken if you encounter category 1 nobody can help you as that is your karma without you knowing.

Category 2 tend to be people that want to harm you in this current life and these people are persistence in ordering the yakkha to cause problems to you. The problems you will get tend to be health, livelihood, relationship etc. Their motives are usually related to greed, jealousy, lust and envy. The person ordering such deeds will face severe karmic repercussion as is the yakkha but they don't know yet as they are lost as they are blinded by their power.
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sentinel wrote:
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Why killing a yakkha being is not a parajika ?

71 . A monk exorcised and killed a yakkha. Verdict: thullaccaya.
The thing I want to know is how do I kill a yakkha.

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bodhifollower wrote:
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sentinel wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 12:05 pm
Why killing a yakkha being is not a parajika ?

71 . A monk exorcised and killed a yakkha. Verdict: thullaccaya.
The thing I want to know is how do I kill a yakkha.
by using psychic or mantra if not mistaken .
Quality is not an act, it is a habit.

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bodhifollower wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:02 am
sentinel wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 12:05 pm
Why killing a yakkha being is not a parajika ?

71 . A monk exorcised and killed a yakkha. Verdict: thullaccaya.
The thing I want to know is how do I kill a yakkha.
If yakha dies it come out as another yakha or go to hell or go to deva loka?
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bodhifollower wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:02 am

The thing I want to know is how do I kill a yakkha.
You don't kill them. If bad yakkhas bother you, you call on good yakkhas to come to your aid. Like it says in the Atanatiya Sutta.

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sentinel wrote:
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Because parajika is only to kill a human being.
Isnt precepts is about killing beings ?
the 1st precept is. the parajika is about killing humans.
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Bonded by decay and death – a nest for sickness, perishable
Produced by seeking nutriment – not fit to take delight in


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dylanj wrote:
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sentinel wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 2:53 pm
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Because parajika is only to kill a human being.
Isnt precepts is about killing beings ?
the 1st precept is. the parajika is about killing humans.
It should include killing animals also .
Quality is not an act, it is a habit.

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sentinel wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:45 pm
dylanj wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:35 am
sentinel wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 2:53 pm


Isnt precepts is about killing beings ?
the 1st precept is. the parajika is about killing humans.
It should include killing animals also .
I think it is fine as the Buddha made it. I think he knew what he was doing.
Born, become, arisen – made, prepared, short-lived
Bonded by decay and death – a nest for sickness, perishable
Produced by seeking nutriment – not fit to take delight in


Departure from this is peaceful – beyond reasoning and enduring
Unborn, unarisen – free from sorrow and stain
Ceasing of all factors of suffering – stilling of all preparations is bliss

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You don't kill them. If bad yakkhas bother you, you call on good yakkhas to come to your aid. Like it says in the Atanatiya Sutta.
Exactly as Bhante Dhammanando stated.
I just report them to their "bosses" if they are troublesome.
I now how to know recite the verse as prescribed and taught by Buddha.
Bottom line is in order to effective you need to be mindful first, i.e. not to live a life of sins, otherwise the bosses let things be.
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