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Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:13 am
by Reductor
Has this poll been done before? Anyway, I was wondering which of the five are your biggest stumbling blocks in meditation. You can pick more than one. For me I regularly wrangle with all but the first two (the fifth one is where I doubt my ability to attain concentration that day - due to any number of issues). But for me personal doubt comes up to often for comfort, while the others are much less frequent.

Re: Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:18 am
by Ben
I chose all because they're all still active unless one is in jhana or have attained arahantship.
And for different reasons, they're all as difficult as each other.
kind regards

Ben

Re: Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:21 am
by retrofuturist
Greetings,

Sloth and Torpor is the #1 for me... a perfect case in point being the meditation session I had a couple of hours ago. Ten minutes in and I switched postures to be lying down. About a minute later I was asleep.

:zzz:

It's not laziness though, just tiredness.

Metta,
Retro. :)

Re: Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:30 am
by Kenshou
Ben wrote:I chose all because they're all still active unless one is in jhana or have attained arahantship.
And for different reasons, they're all as difficult as each other.
Hm, are all 5 necessarily active at all times? (excluding the two you mention) I was under the impression that normal consciousness doesn't necessarily involve the hindrances, though most likely at least a few are present most all the time.

Of course they all have their moments, but the one that I habitually run into more often is definitely restlessness. That urge to "accomplish something" doesn't always shut up easily.

Re: Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:19 am
by Ben
Hi Kenshou
I didn't mean to suggest that all hindrances are active mental concommitants simultaneously in each and each successive citta during meditation.
kind regards

Ben

Re: Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:07 pm
by Kim OHara
Sloth, definitely.

It's one of the Christians' Seven Deadly Sins, too - must be bad. :tongue:
:meditate:

Kim

Re: Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:11 pm
by Reductor
Kim O'Hara wrote:Sloth, definitely.

It's one of the Christians' Seven Deadly Sins, too - must be bad. :tongue:
:meditate:

Kim
It is easy to fall for, because it feels nice to lay down and sleep (either you are not yet awake or you've been awake a long time).

For a while I suffered sloth and torpor badly. Rather than just closing your eyes, which might lead a tired person to sleep, you close your eyes and 'look' at the inside of your eye lids: you focus slightly and look into the darkness. As my focus on the breath picks up steam I start to notice that it is not that dark under my eyelids, and I feel completely awake (and I'm meditating at 1am a lot of times).

That helps me a lot, anyway.

Re: Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:08 pm
by Cittasanto
I chose all!
each has to be dealt with and until they are they are all a problem.

Re: Which hindrance?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:52 pm
by Monkey Mind
<----- Loves fine dinning, fancy coffee, exotic beer, good sex... I will be reborn as mongrel dog who does whatever is pleasing with his body...