Hello everyone,
I am a beginner. Since last summer I have been practicizing "vipassana" meditation. However, I am now interested also in the "samatha" since I am very prone to anxiety ecc
Is there some reliable "guide" in the net for the samatha?
Thank you in advance
Samatha Meditation instructions
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Hi boundless,
The best instruction I have received was via this organisation:
https://www.samatha.org/
The best option is to attend a class in person (I don't know where you are based) but you will see that they also do an online version.
Failing that, Googling the title that you have given this thread will bring up lots of different sets of instructions. You could shop around among these, and, of course, include other recommendations that you are given here.
The best instruction I have received was via this organisation:
https://www.samatha.org/
The best option is to attend a class in person (I don't know where you are based) but you will see that they also do an online version.
Failing that, Googling the title that you have given this thread will bring up lots of different sets of instructions. You could shop around among these, and, of course, include other recommendations that you are given here.
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Thank you very much for the link!Sam Vara wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:48 pm Hi boundless,
The best instruction I have received was via this organisation:
https://www.samatha.org/
The best option is to attend a class in person (I don't know where you are based) but you will see that they also do an online version.
Failing that, Googling the title that you have given this thread will bring up lots of different sets of instructions. You could shop around among these, and, of course, include other recommendations that you are given here.
At the present moment I have some difficulties to go to organized classes. But I think I will go as soon as possibile.
As I said I have some anxiety issues, but I am quite confident that the "samatha" meditation will help!
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I'm also a beginner and therefore have a dumb question.
Isn't anapanasati a form of samatha bhavana?
Isn't anapanasati a form of samatha bhavana?
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Hi,
there are quite good resources for maranasati (death) and body contemplations.
Also here i quote my self;
there are quite good resources for maranasati (death) and body contemplations.
Also here i quote my self;
User1249x wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:19 am Id give simple Anapanasati instruction like this;
Mindful of the entire Body,
Mindful the Posture
One establishes mindfulness on the Breath.
Always mindful, he breathes in; mindful he breathes out.
Further;
Resolving on experiencing Mental&Physical Pleasure
Resolving on calming body and mind
Mindfully breathing in and breathing out
One remains mindful of Feelings and Sensations as one mindfully breathes in and out, focused on calming the body and mind, resolving on pleasure and tranquility. As a person who walks fast would resolve to walk slower.
Further the last part is investigating and noticing;
inconstancy
He trains himself, 'I will breathe in focusing on inconstancy.' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out focusing on inconstancy.'
AN 7.46
"'The perception of inconstancy, when developed & pursued, is of great fruit, of great benefit. It gains a footing in the Deathless, has the Deathless as its final end': Thus was it said. In reference to what was it said?
"When a monk's awareness often remains steeped in the perception of inconstancy, his mind shrinks away from gains, offerings, & fame, bends away, pulls back, and is not drawn in, and either equanimity or loathing take a stance.
dispassion [literally, fading]
He trains himself, 'I will breathe in focusing on dispassion [literally, fading].' He trains himself, 'I will breathe out focusing on dispassion.'
AN 7.46 "'The perception of distaste for every world, when developed & pursued, is of great fruit, of great benefit. It gains a footing in the Deathless, has the Deathless as its final end': Thus was it said. In reference to what was it said?
"When a monk's awareness often remains steeped in the perception of distaste for every world, his mind shrinks away from worldly embellishments, bends away, pulls back, and is not drawn in, and either equanimity or loathing take a stance.
I would probably also train this
Also AN 7.46 "'The perception of stress in what is inconstant, when developed & pursued, is of great fruit, of great benefit. It gains a footing in the Deathless, has the Deathless as its final end': Thus was it said. In reference to what was it said?
"When a monk's awareness often remains steeped in the perception of stress in what is inconstant, a fierce perception of danger & fear is established in him toward idleness, indolence, laziness, heedlessness, lack of commitment, & lack of reflection, as if toward a murderer with an upraised sword.
Other aspects i have not analyzed much but one can think within theme of the Dhamma in general. Also very important to accomodate for state of mind;
Sluggish/Tired Mind"At such times, monks, as the mind is sluggish, that is the wrong time to cultivate the enlightenment-factor[1] of tranquillity, the enlightenment-factor of concentration, the enlightenment-factor of equanimity. What is the reason? A sluggish mind is hard to arouse by these factors.Aroused/Active/Agitated Mind"But, monks, when the mind is sluggish, that is the right time to cultivate the enlightenment-factor of investigation-of-states, the enlightenment-factor of energy, the enlightenment-factor of rapture.[2] What is the reason? A sluggish mind is easy to arouse by these factors."Monks, when the mind is agitated,[3] that is the wrong time to cultivate the enlightenment-factors of investigation-of-states, of energy, of rapture. Why? An agitated mind is hard to calm through these factors."When the mind is agitated, that is the right time to cultivate the enlightenment-factors of tranquillity, concentration, equanimity. Why? Because an agitated mind is easy to calm[4] through these factors.
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It is and it isnt, it also has Kaya-Sati (Mindfulness of the Body, Postures&Activities), Vedana-Sati (Mindfulness of Physical and Mental Sensations), Citta-Sati (Mindfulness of Mind and Emotional States) it also has one focus on Dhamma-Sati (Mindfulness of Teachings and reflection).
As i understand it is, that is the base and allows for versatile approach to training, further one has to decide which Factors of Enlightenment to train, which is done by two things;
1. Either resolving on tranquility, calm and pleasure or not resolving on tranquility, calm and pleasure.
2. Picking appropriate themes for reflection
These two make the difference for which Enlightenment Factors are trained, ie
Mindfulness, Investigation, Energy, Equanity
or;
Mindfulness, Tranquility, Concentration & Pleasure
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Yes, you are perfectly right. As the questioner self-deprecatingly said they were a beginner with a "dumb question", I took it to mean "Is anapana a good way of gaining samatha?". But thanks for the clarification.User1249x wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:12 pm
It is and it isnt, it also has Kaya-Sati (Mindfulness of the Body, Postures&Activities), Vedana-Sati (Mindfulness of Physical and Mental Sensations), Citta-Sati (Mindfulness of Mind and Emotional States) it also has one focus on Dhamma-Sati (Mindfulness of Teachings and reflection).
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LOLSam Vara wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:49 pmYes, you are perfectly right. As the questioner self-deprecatingly said they were a beginner with a "dumb question", I took it to mean "Is anapana a good way of gaining samatha?". But thanks for the clarification.User1249x wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:12 pm
It is and it isnt, it also has Kaya-Sati (Mindfulness of the Body, Postures&Activities), Vedana-Sati (Mindfulness of Physical and Mental Sensations), Citta-Sati (Mindfulness of Mind and Emotional States) it also has one focus on Dhamma-Sati (Mindfulness of Teachings and reflection).
The self-deprecation was a way to pre-emptively decapitate myself just in case anyone would have bit my head off for asking a question which might be perceivable as stupid, especially by someone having a bad day.
May I ask how is, or are jhana(s) related to these factors? Specifically moreso to the second set of factors (Mindfulness, Tranquility, Concentration & Pleasure) than another?User1249x wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:12 pmIt is and it isnt, it also has Kaya-Sati (Mindfulness of the Body, Postures&Activities), Vedana-Sati (Mindfulness of Physical and Mental Sensations), Citta-Sati (Mindfulness of Mind and Emotional States) it also has one focus on Dhamma-Sati (Mindfulness of Teachings and reflection).
As i understand it is, that is the base and allows for versatile approach to training, further one has to decide which Factors of Enlightenment to train, which is done by two things;
1. Either resolving on tranquility, calm and pleasure or not resolving on tranquility, calm and pleasure.
2. Picking appropriate themes for reflection
These two make the difference for which Enlightenment Factors are trained, ie
Mindfulness, Investigation, Energy, Equanity
or;
Mindfulness, Tranquility, Concentration & Pleasure
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Jhanas are related to these factors, drowsiness is ie one of the hindrances so is agitation/restlessness.
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Sati - Mindfulness
Dhamma Vicaya - Investigation, Investigative Knowledge , Analysis , investigation-of-states
Viriya - Energy , Effort , Persistence, Energy
Piti - Joy , Happiness/Rapture , Delightful Satisfaction , Rapture
Passadhi - Tranquility , Calm, Serenity ,
Samadhi - Concentration
Upekkha - Equanimity
These are the Seven Enlightenment Factors and common english translations.
The Seven Factors of Awakening are good to study as telling them to another can heal the person it is said.
Dhamma Vicaya - Investigation, Investigative Knowledge , Analysis , investigation-of-states
Viriya - Energy , Effort , Persistence, Energy
Piti - Joy , Happiness/Rapture , Delightful Satisfaction , Rapture
Passadhi - Tranquility , Calm, Serenity ,
Samadhi - Concentration
Upekkha - Equanimity
These are the Seven Enlightenment Factors and common english translations.
The Seven Factors of Awakening are good to study as telling them to another can heal the person it is said.
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Thank you all very much
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actually posted similar instruction here;
viewtopic.php?f=44&p=457806#p457806
might be useful as it is the same topic.
viewtopic.php?f=44&p=457806#p457806
might be useful as it is the same topic.
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i am only noticing this now : in the context of jhanas, joy may be seen as opposed to equanimity. The joy fades away, then even sukkha, then equanimity replaces it. But joy is still there as a factor of enlightenment. Is joy a "former" factor of enlightenment, then practice goes further and equanimity only remains, like in jhana stepsUser1249x wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:44 pm Sati - Mindfulness
Dhamma Vicaya - Investigation, Investigative Knowledge , Analysis , investigation-of-states
Viriya - Energy , Effort , Persistence, Energy
Piti - Joy , Happiness/Rapture , Delightful Satisfaction , Rapture
Passadhi - Tranquility , Calm, Serenity ,
Samadhi - Concentration
Upekkha - Equanimity
These are the Seven Enlightenment Factors and common english translations.
The Seven Factors of Awakening are good to study as telling them to another can heal the person it is said.
or maybe the fact joy disappears in jhana is specific to jhana. Maybe in the Path the joy remains, and is associated to equanimity regarding change, constant change. In the context of intense concentration joy at some point has no more place, but Joy and Equanimity are two friends in the Path. Not sure!
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I have a couple of friends who are involved in Samatha Trust, good people. I didn't get on with their breath mediation technique though, it involves a deliberate manipulation of breath length.
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