mddrill wrote:I've read that in a cross legged posture your knees should touch the ground, and if not I either need to put pillows under my knees or get a higher seat. But I have relatively thick calf and thigh muscles which prevent my knees from touching the floor, what should I do in this situation? they say your weight should be balanced on your pelvis and knees but when I sit my weight is on my pelvis, calves and ankles (I sit Burmese style with a buckwheat zafu, a blanket underneath to make it higher, and no zabuton or support cushions) the only way my knees could possibly touch the ground would be if I had a seat high enough to make my thighs perpendicular to the ground.
I also feel strain on my knees which isn't painful but worries me that It could cause problems in the long run.
Any advice would be helpful,
James the Giant wrote:I damaged one knee permanently by sitting through the pain during meditation retreats where the teacher said "just ignore the knee pain, sit through it, it's okay". No, it was not okay, and 10 years later I'm still paying the price for listening to that foolish, ignorant teacher. It was not meditation-imaginary pain, it was real cartilage damage being done to my delicate knees.
Many older western monks have knee damage, and it is from sitting in meditation on the floor. And the stupid thing is, there is no reason to sit on the floor. Is is just a custom, a pointless tradition, a cultural thing from Asia.
Use a chair or a seiza bench.
Wideshanks wrote:What posture did he/she have you sit in?
James the Giant wrote:Wideshanks wrote:What posture did he/she have you sit in?
Cross legged, on a cushion, the common way.
Fine for a day or two, but then the inflexibility of the hips causes force to be transferred to the knees, slowly but constantly forcing the knee joint to try to bend sideways- not the way it's designed to bend! This pinches knee cartilige like a bolt cutter - two long bones of your leg magnifying or focusing the force.
It's all to do with how flexible the hips are, and most westerners are not flexible enough in that area.
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