Kasina bhavana

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justindesilva
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Kasina bhavana

Post by justindesilva » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:50 am

I had success in meditating on the sound of breaking waves on the shore.
Does this meditation on sound fall in to Kasina bhvana.

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Re: Kasina bhavana

Post by SarathW » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:36 am

There are certain characteristics to qualify for a Kasina.
A list of the accepted link is given in the following link.
Are you living near the shore most of the time?
Does it make you happy?
How far you can go with this Kasin? (up to which level of Jhana)
I can't recall reading about sound, smell or taste Kasina.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasina
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Kasina bhavana

Post by Srilankaputra » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:34 am

I'm not sure if it is a kasina. But this nimitta can be extented to one of listening to thoughts. When you listen to thoughts they just dissolve leaving silence. This is one of the methods taught by Ajahn Sumedho. Listening to the sound of silence.
O seeing one,we for refuge go to thee!
O mighty sage do thou our teacher be!

Paccuppannañca yo dhammaṃ,
Tattha tattha vipassati

“Yato yato mano nivāraye,
Na dukkhameti naṃ tato tato;
Sa sabbato mano nivāraye,
Sa sabbato dukkhā pamuccatī”ti.

form
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Re: Kasina bhavana

Post by form » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:19 am

justindesilva wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:50 am
I had success in meditating on the sound of breaking waves on the shore.
Does this meditation on sound fall in to Kasina bhvana.
Are u able to subdue the five hinderances using this without moving to another meditation object? If yes, dun bother about what others say.

justindesilva
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Re: Kasina bhavana

Post by justindesilva » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:40 pm

form wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:19 am
justindesilva wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:50 am
I had success in meditating on the sound of breaking waves on the shore.
Does this meditation on sound fall in to Kasina bhvana.
Are u able to subdue the five hinderances using this without moving to another meditation object? If yes, dun bother about what others say.
Yes and thank you.
I use other sounds too as nimitta , successfully.

form
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Re: Kasina bhavana

Post by form » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:43 pm

I think the 40 kasinas in the list of vishuddimagga is a compilation rather than a definitive list. Cos if vimuttimagga has 38, likely a later book will try to strive to have more I.e. 40. Maybe a later editor may try to have even more like 42?

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Re: Kasina bhavana

Post by sentinel » Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:18 pm

justindesilva wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:50 am
I had success in meditating on the sound of breaking waves on the shore.
Does this meditation on sound fall in to Kasina bhvana.
If you succeeded in attaining concentration then you have to advance into dependent origination .
Best wishes .
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