Mindfulness directed to the body

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Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by befriend » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:03 pm

What is mindfulness directed to the body?
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Re: Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by jabalí » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:10 pm

To keep the body in mind?
‘Good man, you must carry around this bowl of oil filled to the brim between the crowd and the most beautiful girl of the land. A man with a drawn sword will be following right behind you, and wherever you spill even a little of it, right there he will fell your head.’

“What do you think, bhikkhus, would that man stop attending to that bowl of oil and out of negligence turn his attention outwards?”

“No, venerable sir.”

“I have made up this simile, bhikkhus, in order to convey a meaning. This here is the meaning: ‘The bowl of oil filled to the brim’: this is a designation for mindfulness directed to the body. Therefore, bhikkhus, you should train yourselves thus: ‘We will develop and cultivate mindfulness directed to the body, make it our vehicle, make it our basis, stabilize it, exercise ourselves in it, and fully perfect it.’ Thus, bhikkhus, should you train yourselves.”
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Re: Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by ToVincent » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:22 pm

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jabalí wrote:To keep the body in mind?
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Right!

Mindfulness has never been, in echt Buddhism, a great awareness of the event you are involved in.

Buddhist' s mindfulness is about beeing always aware of the external influence of a khandha. Not to let that khandha overwhelm oneself with that sensory input.

This is why the two "mindfulnesses" are called "mindfulness of the body" and "mindfulness of breathing".
Does anyone else than you, can breath for you - or can anyone have control of what you do with your body (unless you let these khandhas in)?

Mindfulness is to be always in control of "oneself" - of one's atta - being aware that what is felt, comes from the external - unless it is from your own breath or body.

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Re: Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by paul » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:42 pm

More than the breath: A methodical practice of satipatthana has to start with one of the exercises out of the group 'contemplation of the body':
(1) The contemplation of the body (káyanupassaná) consists of the following exercises: mindfulness with regard to in-and-outbreathing (ánápánasati, q.v.), minding the 4 postures (iriyápatha, q.v.), mindfulness and clarity of consciousness (satisampajañña, q.v.), reflection on the 32 parts of the body (s. káyagatásati and asubha), analysis of the 4 physical elements (dhátuvavatthána, q.v.), cemetery meditations (sívathiká q.v.).---"Buddhist Dictionary", Ven. Nyanatiloka

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Re: Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by LuminousBliss » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:05 pm

Usually to get to very deep meditation states it's important not giving any attention to the body and any other external senses
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Re: Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by TreeSleeper » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:38 pm

It depends on the practice, traditionally it is being aware of the body in all activities, using the body as an anchor of awareness. If you are doing sitting meditation you can use the general feeling of your body as the meditation object. It can also mean being fully aware when doing things like bending, grabing, speaking. Mindfulness of the body can also mean the asubha practice of viewing the body as something repulsive, or seeing the body as the four elements. You can also look at individual parts of the body, traditionally the 32 parts like the hair, skin, bones, etc. Mindfulness of breathing is also included with mindfulness of the body.

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Re: Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by 2600htz » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:57 pm

Hello:

Have u ever felt the need to scratch some part of your body when somebody is saying something u don't like?.

Mindfulness of the body is recognizing that the body and the mind are connected, so u can be able to let go unwholesome states better.

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Re: Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by TreeSleeper » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:02 pm

2600htz wrote:Hello:

Have u ever felt the need to scratch some part of your body when somebody is saying something u don't like?.

Mindfulness of the body is recognizing that the body and the mind are connected, so u can be able to let go unwholesome states better.

Regards.
What does one do when they notice that part of their body itches when somebody says something they don't like?

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Re: Mindfulness directed to the body

Post by 2600htz » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:41 pm

TreeSleeper wrote:
2600htz wrote:Hello:

Have u ever felt the need to scratch some part of your body when somebody is saying something u don't like?.

Mindfulness of the body is recognizing that the body and the mind are connected, so u can be able to let go unwholesome states better.

Regards.
What does one do when they notice that part of their body itches when somebody says something they don't like?
Hello:

The person should do right effort.
U recognize an unwholesome state, u let go of an unwholesome state, u bring up a wholesome state.

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