tiltbillings wrote: clw_uk wrote:
Because there are benefits to being a monastic.
There aren't benefits to being a monastic?
I think there is in terms of practicing sense restraint and being celibate, but your argument seems to be that a Buddhist can achieve some levels of awakening whilst being sexually active and whilst indulging in sensual pleasures. If so, what is the point of the monastic life?
What I am sensing is that you seem to believe that there are really only two options, either living a monastic life or a bacchanalian life of orgiastic pleasure seeking. The reality, certainly for those of us who have been in long term romantic relationships, much broader and more nuanced.
What you may find very instructive of what lay spiritual life can look like then you should read Ananda's Ornament of Lay Followers. As I mentioned earlier - there are opportunities for deep and rich growth in the Dhamma as a monastic or a lay follower whether one is sexually active or celibate - however, one must make use of the opportunities (and the nature of the opportunities are different) for spiritual growth to occur.
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