The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

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The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by lavantien » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:07 am



At 12:22.

Eating one meal a day (eat as less as possible) is actually prolong your lifespan and make you more healthy. And not moderate in eating (eat whenever you want) is actually shorten your lifespan and make you less healthy.
Watch the whole video for the detail explanation.

It's amazing to see how advanced are the instructions of the Buddha.
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Then the Teacher, being sympathetic, and having compassion for the whole world,
said to me, “Come, monk!” That was my ordination.
Staying alone in the wilderness, meditating tirelessly,
I have completed what the Teacher taught, just as the victor advised me.

In the first watch of the night, I recollected my past lives.
In the middle watch of the night, I purified my clairvoyance.
In the last watch of the night, I shattered the mass of darkness.

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Re: The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by DNS » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:20 am

By coincidence, there was a report about the positive benefits on the nightly news on NBC today.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/vi ... 5771973683

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Re: The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by auto » Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:35 pm

First I thought make notes of some key words but..it shows how healing, reverse aging etc is not some delusional wishful thinking derived from reading "myths"

epigenome..
there are also longevety and protective(from health issues etc) genes, they are activated, these genes are turning on our general defence system against aging. They sense things, when we lost our breath, too hot, too cold.
parts of our cells fall apart, they can be put back together. Most important is to retain epigenomic information so that our cells don't forget what to do.
Sirtuins - silent information regulator
AMKP - sense how much energy we are taking in, mostly in forms of sugar.
mTOR - genes what control and respon how much amino acids we are taking in.

if to eat giant steak, means lots of amino acids coming in, it will prevent mTOR keeping you being longer lived.

best way to make mouse live longer is to reduce the amount of time it eats, so periodic fastng, intermittent fasting, to keep it(mouse) little bit cool,
and restrict its amino acids.

Is there a way to simulate it?
There are molecules that turn on sirtuin pathway. and trick the body.
IN lab when to give mice a molecule called NMN, it will raise the chemical called NAD, you get hyperactive defences in the body, result is tha the old mice
outrun the young mice, compared to human it is 70 year old outrunning 20 year olds. 90 year olds could win olympic medals.

Summary
0. avoid DNA damage
1. eat less. Caloric restrictions
2. eat less protein, becase your body has ways of detecting how much you are taking it in
3. high intensity interval training, get the heart rate up to 85 percent, get your body feel like you are running from a lion or something
4. be uncomfortabily cold
5. or be uncomfortabily hot

all these things will trigger your bodies longevity genes into maintaining your epigenome, going into the 'repair and protect' mode rather than 'grow and reproduce' mode.

then research about reverse aging.. need take the epigenome and reset it back to an earlier time..resetting back to how cell was an embryo "pluripotent stem cell"
reverse aging the eye retina is done already in lab. Have to be careful not to reset these cells to be basically a stem cell otehrwise it will become a giant tumor
in the back of their eyes..so they leave out "cMyc" which causes cancer. It is possible to turn everse aging on and off so to not take them too far back in age.
There was a talk about 4 reprogramming factors(discovered by the scientist Yamanaka, year 2012), a genetherapy what will reset the epigenome back how the cell was when it was an embryo
, what also won the Noble prize, they use three.

right now scientist are figuring how to turn mouse entirely young from 2 years to 2 months. So far they have reset the eye once also what allows the mice see again too..
Jellyfish seem to be capable of activating something like Yamanaka factors and resetting epigenomes back to an erlier time in their lives.

in sum reverse aging could be possible and there is some sort of roadmap how to get there.


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OP, your point is not precise there is lot more to it..

And this video seem really show the importance and credibility of the ancient alchemy.. and that the Suttas could be also about reverse aging, deathless, immortality and what not.

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Re: The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by lavantien » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:45 pm

auto wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:35 pm
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OP, your point is not precise there is lot more to it..

And this video seem really show the importance and credibility of the ancient alchemy.. and that the Suttas could be also about reverse aging, deathless, immortality and what not.
I just focus on what connect with the Dhamma: the benefits of one meal a day. that's why I pin point a timestamp.

As stated in the video they're on going scientific researches, I'm not sure where you get "the importance and credibility of the ancient alchemy" from.
Then the Teacher, being sympathetic, and having compassion for the whole world,
said to me, “Come, monk!” That was my ordination.
Staying alone in the wilderness, meditating tirelessly,
I have completed what the Teacher taught, just as the victor advised me.

In the first watch of the night, I recollected my past lives.
In the middle watch of the night, I purified my clairvoyance.
In the last watch of the night, I shattered the mass of darkness.

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Re: The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by auto » Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:38 pm

lavantien wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:45 pm
I just focus on what connect with the Dhamma: the benefits of one meal a day. that's why I pin point a timestamp.

As stated in the video they're on going scientific researches, I'm not sure where you get "the importance and credibility of the ancient alchemy" from.
The idea behind fasting is to keep the "longevity and protective" genes active, danger is that you could with other things still sabotage it and activate the "grow and reproduce" mode.
If you copulate, not maintaining celibacy, the reproductive mode is activated regardless if you do the one meal day rule.

Seem one meal per day isn't for persons who can't stop causing loss of their life essence. The chastity is foremost than the ultra diet.

+ I would like to see the dhamma rule of "one meal per day" or the 6th rule, you can find different interpretations to it.
I think anyone with above normal speed of metabolism can't do it in a long run, it is weird ascetics who are doing discipline for certain amount of time and then quit for a while, lose everything they cultivated and then start over.. without achieving any meaningful breakthrough.

+fasting alone doesn't cut it, there is heart and mind also what needs attention.
the lab rats are healed, preserved with relevant chemicals and genes injected to them. Dietary doesn't result in heart and mind transformation only longevity.

the "I just focus on what connects with the Dhamma". I hope you see there is more connections. What I meant is the outrageous claims done in scriptures, legends nowadays people are taking them with grain of salt even now when the science backs these legends.

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Re: The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by salayatananirodha » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:14 am

http://obo.genaud.net/dhamma-vinaya/pts/mn/mn.135.horn.pts.htm wrote:"Brahman youth, here some woman or man
is one that makes onslaught on creatures,
is cruel,
bloody-handed,
intent on injuring and killing,
and without mercy to living creatures.[8]

Because of that [250] deed,
accomplished thus,
firmly held[9] thus,
he, at the breaking up of the body after dying
arises in the sorrowful ways,
the bad bourn,
the Downfall,
Niraya Hell.

But if, at the breaking up of the body after dying
he does not arise in the sorrowful ways,
the bad bourn,
the Downfall,
Niraya Hell,
but comes to human status,
then wherever he is born
(in a new existence)
he is of a short life-span.

This course is conducive
to shortness of life-span, brahman youth,
that is to say
making onslaught on creatures,
being cruel,
bloody-handed,
intent on injuring and killing,
and without mercy to living creatures.



But, brahman youth,
here some woman or man,
by getting rid of onslaught on creatures
is one who abstains from onslaught on creatures;
the stick laid aside,
the sword laid aside,
he lives scrupulous,
merciful,
kindly and compassionate to all living creatures.

Because of that deed,
accomplished thus,
firmly held thus,
at the breaking up of the body after dying
he arises in a good bourn,
a heaven world.

But if, at the breaking up of the body after dying
he does not arise in a good bourn,
a heaven world,
but comes to human status,
then wherever he is born
(in a new existence)
he is of a long life-span.

This course is conducive
to length of life-span, brahman youth,
that is to say,
if one, by getting rid of onslaught on creatures,
abstains from onslaught on creatures,
(and with) the stick laid aside,
the sword laid aside,
lives scrupulous,
merciful,
kindly and compassionate to all living creatures.



Brahman youth, here some woman or man
is by nature harmful to creatures
with his hand
or with a clod of earth
or with a stick
or with a sword.

Because of that deed,
accomplished thus,
firmly held thus,
he, at the breaking up of the body after dying
arises in the sorrowful ways,
the bad bourn,
the Downfall,
Niraya Hell.

But if, at the breaking up of the body after dying
he does not arise in the sorrowful ways,
the bad bourn,
the Downfall,
Niraya Hell
but comes to human status,
then wherever he is born
(in a new existence)
he has many illnesses.

This course is conducive
to many illnesses, brahman youth,
that is to say
being by nature harmful to creatures
with his hand
or with a clod of earth
or with a stick
or with a sword.



But, brahman youth,
here some woman or man
is not by nature harmful to creatures
with his hand
or with a clod of earth
or with a stick
or with a sword.

Because of that deed
accomplished thus,
firmly held thus,
at the breaking up of the body after dying
he arises in a good bourn,
a heaven world.

But if, at the breaking up of the body after dying
he does not arise in a good bourn,
a heaven world,
but comes to human status,
then wherever he is born
(in a new existence)
he has few illnesses.

This [251] course is conducive
to few illnesses, brahman youth,
that is to say
not being by nature harmful to creatures
with his hand
or with a clod of earth
or with a stick
or with a sword.
experimenting on mice to shorten their lifespan is conducive to a short lifespan
16. 'In what has the world originated?' — so said the Yakkha Hemavata, — 'with what is the world intimate? by what is the world afflicted, after having grasped at what?' (167)

17. 'In six the world has originated, O Hemavata,' — so said Bhagavat, — 'with six it is intimate, by six the world is afflicted, after having grasped at six.' (168)

- Hemavatasutta


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http://thaiforestwisdom.org/canonical-texts/
http://seeingthroughthenet.net/wp-conte ... _Heart.pdf
https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html

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Re: The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by SarathW » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:25 am

Good video.

“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by SarathW » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:27 am

My question is what about the people who fasting without a choice?
Like children and people who are suffering from hunger in third world countries?
Are they healthier than Westerners and people in developed countries?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: The scientific proof of the benefits of eating one meal a day.

Post by DNS » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:36 pm

SarathW wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:27 am
My question is what about the people who fasting without a choice?
Like children and people who are suffering from hunger in third world countries?
Are they healthier than Westerners and people in developed countries?
Definitely unhealthier. They are going long periods without food, much longer than 24 hours. And when they get food, it is not well-balanced or that nutritious. Cesar Chavez regularly did long fasts, some around 30 days. He did it for hunger strikes and also for health and spirituality (he thought it was healthy). His organs started failing and he didn't live too long, dying at age 66.

I believe the one meal a day program is best; not too long of a fast and not too short, just right (if balanced and nutritious).

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