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Why do we cover up?

Post by SarathW » Fri May 24, 2019 1:58 am

Why do we cover up?
I just had this thought today.
- We use elaborate dresses to cover our bodies
- We do make-up and body make overs. (face lift etc)
- Our car engine is covered with a nice metal body

In Buddhist term we trying to hide Asubha.
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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by DNS » Fri May 24, 2019 2:27 am

SarathW wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 1:58 am
In Buddhist term we trying to hide Asubha and Subha.
Mostly to hide asubha, not so much to hide subha. :tongue:

The Buddha insisted his monastics and lay people wear clothes, as opposed to the naked ascetics. I imagine it's not so much because of seeing the body as asubha (although might be the case, at least to some degree), but due to it being a distraction, going against cultural norms, and being an extreme practice.

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by Ceisiwr » Fri May 24, 2019 4:20 am

I think hygiene plays a role. I don’t particularly want to sit on a bus seat that someone has been sat on who hasn’t washed during summer time.
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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by binocular » Fri May 24, 2019 10:01 am

SarathW wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 1:58 am
Why do we cover up?
Do come to central or Northern Europe or North America, esp. in the winter, but spring and fall will do too. Needless to say, Siberia could teach you some lessons about the importance of clothes, too.

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by binocular » Fri May 24, 2019 10:02 am

Ceisiwr wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 4:20 am
I think hygiene plays a role. I don’t particularly want to sit on a bus seat that someone has been sat on who hasn’t washed during summer time.
Even if it's a woman in a miniskirt. That's just so unsanitary.

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by Ceisiwr » Fri May 24, 2019 12:38 pm

binocular wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 10:02 am
Ceisiwr wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 4:20 am
I think hygiene plays a role. I don’t particularly want to sit on a bus seat that someone has been sat on who hasn’t washed during summer time.
Even if it's a woman in a miniskirt. That's just so unsanitary.
Is wearing a miniskirt classed as being naked?
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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by binocular » Fri May 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Ceisiwr wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 12:38 pm
Is wearing a miniskirt classed as being naked?
I don't care. It's unsanitary. Sitting where a woman in a miniskirt sat before is almost like sitting down on someone's toilet.
Disgusting.

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by dharmacorps » Fri May 24, 2019 4:49 pm

Although if we all walked around naked there would be probably more disgust with the human body, there would probably also be more lust.

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by Mr Man » Fri May 24, 2019 6:24 pm

Wisely reflecting, I use the robe:
Only to ward off cold,
To ward off heat,
To ward off the touch of flies, mosquitoes, wind, burning and creeping things,

http://wimutti.org/en/chants/reflection ... equisites/

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by santa100 » Fri May 24, 2019 6:31 pm

SarathW wrote:- We use elaborate dresses to cover our bodies
- We do make-up and body make overs. (face lift etc)
- Our car engine is covered with a nice metal body
As long as it's not too elaborate, it's for practical and functional purposes: protecting against the elements (applied to both the car engine and the human body), and making it possible for female practitioners to participate (it'd be pretty difficult for those naked asceticism schools to accept female disciples right? :tongue: )

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by SarathW » Fri May 24, 2019 8:56 pm

(it'd be pretty difficult for those naked asceticism schools to accept female disciples right? :tongue: )
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I thought more female devotes for naked ascetics.

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by retrofuturist » Sun May 26, 2019 6:12 am

Greetings,

Please note... Meta-discussion (TOS2e) and posts that took the miniskirt bit too far (TOS2c) have been removed.

Yes, we get the idea... time to get back to focusing on the topic, as defined in the OP.

:focus:

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Re: Why do we cover up?

Post by Antaradhana » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:29 pm

Clothing is one of the four necessities, it protects from the scorching sun, wind, cold, insect bites. If the attitude to clothes is purely utilitarian, and it is chosen not to look more beautiful and attractive, then there are no problems.
All that is subject to arising is subject to termination, all formations are non-permanent. And that which is impermanent is suffering. Regarding what is impermanent and prone to suffering, one cannot say: "This is mine, I am this, this is my self".

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