The truth about egg yolks?

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by Ben » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:57 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Ben wrote:There is no "worrying".
Clearly there is, or you would not be wasting your precious time reading these articles on the "dangers" of eating eggs, and promoting the dubious claims that they are making.
Dubious?
With respect, you are not qualified to make that assessment.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:According to Dr Google the "evidence" is contrary to your opinion. You choose to ignore those articles that don't support your current view, and to believe the articles that do. The main problem is egos, not eggs.
In your opinion.
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Human beings have been eating eggs, fish, poultry, and meat for tens of thousands of years. There is no evidence that a moderate amount of any of these products causes serious health issues. Excess in almost anything can cause health problems. You can die from drinking too much water.
On the contrary, there is.
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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by Virgo » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:47 pm

This nutritionist seems to say that eggs are good for you:



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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by Roland » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:29 pm

Eggs are super healthy for you.

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html

There is no "bad cholesterol", only destroyed and oxidized LDL, a carrier of cholesterol. When LDL receptors are damaged by inflammation and toxins, the LDL cannot be absorbed, so it cycles through the blood until it become oxidized (which is quickened when LDL contains polyunsaturated fats) which turns into a foam which coats arteries with plaque.

Eating eggs, cholesterol or saturated fat does not cause plaque or heart disease. Inflammation and toxins cause LDL to be oxidized which creates plaque.

The ratio of HDL to LDL is a good biomarker, not overall raised cholesterol levels. Cholesterol does not equal HDL or LDL. HDL and LDL are lipoproteins which are carriers of cholesterol from the liver.

Eggs are like multivitamins. Dietary cholesterol is almost irrelevant and healthy when it is absorbed.
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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by mirco » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:08 pm


Not the first time modern industrial lifestyle messes up what is good by itself.
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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by reflection » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:59 pm

The internet is full of 'research' on all types of food and they often contradict one another. Of course it depends on context. One might say eggs are healthy because they contain proteins, but if you already get enough proteins from other sources that of course is very relative. So I think it's best to use common sense and listen to your body. I think 1 egg a day may be a bit much for me personally, so overall I keep it lower than that and am thinking of discarding them all together. Proteins are in many plant based products as well.

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by Varillon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:45 pm

I personally have to watch my egg intake because of a fatty liver. All food intake requires prior research and experimentation to find out how YOUR body reacts. If you have 500 cholesterol, put the eggs and burgers down. Same deal if an egg makes you feel bad in some way. While researching my diet recently, I found an article detailing why vegetables are dangerous for our health. As plants evolve over time, they produce naturally insecticides to destroy and/or defend against pests. In essence, consuming plants of any kind poisons the human body in small ways. The catch is to consume a variety of foods to obtain each source's nourishment. All we can do is experiment until we find a diet that works both for our bodies and minds.

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by Roland » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:41 pm

I'd say its more important to know how your own body responds to a particular thing through listening and testing rather than what any particular research says.
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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by Joe33060 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:04 am

Roland wrote:I'd say its more important to know how your own body responds to a particular thing through listening and testing rather than what any particular research says.

some people consuming all kind of foods high on cholesterol and their test results are excellent and others are being very careful and their test results are high, it better to check on individual responds I would agree

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by dagon » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:35 am

Joe33060 wrote:
Roland wrote:I'd say its more important to know how your own body responds to a particular thing through listening and testing rather than what any particular research says.

some people consuming all kind of foods high on cholesterol and their test results are excellent and others are being very careful and their test results are high, it better to check on individual responds I would agree
Cholesterol is never a problem until it becomes a problem. Bodies change and it maybe too late before you find out, that is the case with 35% of the people i am looking after at this time.

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by ricebowl » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:33 pm

dagon wrote:
Joe33060 wrote:
Roland wrote:I'd say its more important to know how your own body responds to a particular thing through listening and testing rather than what any particular research says.

some people consuming all kind of foods high on cholesterol and their test results are excellent and others are being very careful and their test results are high, it better to check on individual responds I would agree
Cholesterol is never a problem until it becomes a problem. Bodies change and it maybe too late before you find out, that is the case with 35% of the people i am looking after at this time.

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It's again more about dukkha, anatta, and anicca than whether cholesterol is good or bad.

Theravada Buddhism mentioned about abandoning evil and practising good, the issue about egg yolks, my cousin avoid them in the past, then again it's a nutritional issue, when you are e.g. pregnant the dietary needs change. What used to be bad may actually be more nourishing instead.

The Buddha had a named concern towards practitioners about four issues namely karma, food, weather, and mind. Within these four pillars He was trying to advise us that each and every one of them had an impact whether towards a monastic or simply a householder. A dietrician may be skilled at calculating cholesterol levels, a meteorlogist may be skilled at estimating weather forecasts, these two are considered visible and observable physical phenomenon. As per karma and mind, that's more challenging than how to cook an egg yolk right.

:heart: I love egg yolks with curry. I had one today

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by Digity » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:04 pm

I'm not going to listen to a vegan doctor's advice about eggs. Obviously, very biased. I'd rather listen to someone with no skin in the game. Egg yolks are packed with nutrients...and it's real food vs. processed crap. Stuffing donuts down your pie hole is what kills people.

OP, I use egg whites and vegan protien powders. I can't tolerate milk.

BTW free range chickens aren't nearly as "free" as you think. It's more of a sales gimmick.

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by robertk » Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:17 am

http://news.menshealth.com/the-best-bre ... 012/04/26/
The Best Breakfast for Men

With 6 grams of protein and less than 100 calories, an egg is the perfect food.

Go ahead and scramble those eggs, yolk and all—there’s new evidence that it may lower your risk of heart disease.

Two new studies from the University of Connecticut recently presented at the Experimental Biology conference found that eating eggs actually improved cholesterol levels and reduced disease-producing inflammation in the body.

In one study, researchers asked participants following a carbohydrate-restricted diet to eat three whole eggs per day while another group ate an equivalent amount of egg substitute. After 12 weeks, the whole egg group experienced increases in levels of “good” HDL cholesterol, from 50 mg/dL to 59 mg/dL. (Doctors say men should aim for HDL levels over 40 mg/dL.) Their LDL (“bad”) cholesterol levels didn’t change at all. (For more delicious, belly-filling foods, click here!)

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by Virgo » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:47 am

Good article Robert. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by robertk » Tue May 22, 2018 4:30 pm

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An egg a day may keep the doctor away, study claims
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PARIS: For decades, experts warned that eating eggs raises levels of unhealthy cholesterol. But a study Tuesday said an egg a day may actually reduce the risk of heart disease and stroke.


While outside experts cautioned against reading too much into the study, its authors claimed that Chinese adults who ate an egg every day had a lower risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD).

Studying half-a-million healthy adults aged 30-79 over almost nine years, researchers concluded that "compared with non-consumers, daily egg consumption was associated with lower risk of CVD."

Risk of haemorrhagic stroke was 26% lower among egg-eaters, the Chinese-British research team reported in the journal Heart.


And daily egg consumption was associated with an 18% lower risk of death from CVD, and a 28% lower risk for death from haemorrhagic stroke.

CVD, a group of disorders of the heart and blood vessels, is the leading cause of death and disability worldwide, including in China.

According to the World Health Organization, about 17.7 million people die of CVDs each year, almost a third of all deaths worldwide.

Eighty percent of CVD deaths are caused by heart attacks and strokes.

Smoking, not exercising enough, and eating an unhealthy diet high in salt and low in fresh fruit and vegetables, increase the risk.

Eggs are rich in dietary cholesterol, long linked to a higher CVD risk, but also contain crucial protein and vitamins.

In the study group, 13% reported daily egg consumption, while 9% said they never or hardly ever ate them.

By the end of the study period, almost 84,000 cases of CVD and 10,000 CVD deaths were recorded, and compared among the different egg-intake groups.

"The present study finds that there is an association between moderate level of egg consumption (up to one egg per day) and a lower cardiac event rate," the authors concluded.

But experts not involved in the study, said the results fail to prove that eating eggs actively lowers CVD risk.

"An important limitation of this present study is that the people who consumed eggs regularly were much more affluent than those who avoided them," University College of London nutrition specialist Tom Sanders said.

"Indeed, rates of stroke have been falling in Japan, Australia, North America and Europe for several decades for reasons that remain uncertain but may be related to increasing affluence," he said via the Science Media Centre in London.

According to cardiology expert Gavin Sandercock of the University of Essex: "to say that eating eggs is good (or bad) for you based on a study like this would be foolish as diet is much more complicated than picking on one foodstuff like eggs."

A second paper published in Heart found that people who commute to work by walking or cycling had a risk of heart disease and stroke 11% lower than those who take the car.

Their risk of dying from CVD diseases was almost a third lower, found the seven-year study of more than 350,000 people in Britain.

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Re: The truth about egg yolks?

Post by binocular » Tue May 22, 2018 6:38 pm

AFAIK, the original study that brought up concerns that eating eggs is harmful was done on rabbits (!), who indeed got severe health problems from being fed eggs.
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