Physical exercise and depression.

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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by Annapurna » Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:03 pm

Oh, ooops, I think I should translate, --that's Latin, and means :

A healthy mind in a healthy body.

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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by DAWN » Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:18 pm

Today i was in some neurophisiological conferention, and scientific that was here said that sport is helpfull with depression, but endorphines (that make us feel pleasure, and by this, help with depression) are produced by organism only after a very fast sprint, or a long intence physical exercice.
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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by Sam Vara » Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:56 pm

DAWN wrote:Today i was in some neurophisiological conferention, and scientific that was here said that sport is helpfull with depression, but endorphines (that make us feel pleasure, and by this, help with depression) are produced by organism only after a very fast sprint, or a long intence physical exercice.
Check out my original post, and my June 8th post.

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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:46 pm

Greetings Daniel,
danieLion wrote:
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Actually, I wouldn't be so quick to write-off induce.

Exercise sucks - it induces pain - pain is dukkha. :lol:

Metta,
Retro. :)
But it induces even more sukkha.
Does it? I guess experience is subjective... mileage may vary.

Metta,
Retro. :)
"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"It is natural that one who knows and sees things as they really are is disenchanted and dispassionate." (AN 10.2)

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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by danieLion » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:57 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Daniel,
danieLion wrote:
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Actually, I wouldn't be so quick to write-off induce.

Exercise sucks - it induces pain - pain is dukkha. :lol:

Metta,
Retro. :)
But it induces even more sukkha.
Does it? I guess experience is subjective... mileage may vary.

Metta,
Retro. :)
It's like meditation. You have to do it long enough consistently and in the right way to see results.

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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by danieLion » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:24 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Daniel,
danieLion wrote:
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Actually, I wouldn't be so quick to write-off induce.

Exercise sucks - it induces pain - pain is dukkha. :lol:

Metta,
Retro. :)
But it induces even more sukkha.
Does it? I guess experience is subjective... mileage may vary.

Metta,
Retro. :)
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 00#p212700" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by retrofuturist » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:21 am

Greetings Daniel,

Funny then - I'm normal BMI, do negligible exercise, and feel just fine. Never felt better.

If this were a universally true means to alleviate depression and suffering (e.g. aerobic exercise, resistance training) then don't you think the Buddha might have thought to teach such things? In the Dhamma, they are conspicuous by their absence.

Again, see the link in the original post and see if what you're saying fully reconciles with it. If not, one or the other is in error.

Metta,
Retro. :)
"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"It is natural that one who knows and sees things as they really are is disenchanted and dispassionate." (AN 10.2)

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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by tiltbillings » Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:33 pm

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Actually, I wouldn't be so quick to write-off induce.

Exercise sucks - it induces pain - pain is dukkha. :lol:

Metta,
Retro. :)
Surgery also causes pain. On a personal level, while exercise can be quite blissful (anandamides and all that) and the subsequent sense of well-being of having a body that that has stamina and a sense of health is nothing to sniff at, either. But experiences vary.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

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Re: Physical exercise and depression.

Post by danieLion » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:00 pm

tiltbillings wrote:
retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Actually, I wouldn't be so quick to write-off induce.

Exercise sucks - it induces pain - pain is dukkha. :lol:

Metta,
Retro. :)
Surgery also causes pain. On a personal level, while exercise can be quite blissful (anandamides and all that) and the subsequent sense of well-being of having a body that that has stamina and a sense of health is nothing to sniff at, either. But experiences vary.
The better shape I'm in, the better mediations I have (and less pain during meditation).

The main shortcoming with the exercise movement is that it is intoxication with youth, beauty, and health, and that's where I as a Buddhist religionist start pouring in the grains of salt.

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