Garlic and onions

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Garlic and onions

Post by thomaslaw » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:59 am

Are Theravada monks allowed to eat garlic and onions?

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Re: Garlic and onions

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Re: Garlic and onions

Post by thomaslaw » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:31 am

Volo wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:17 am
Check this viewtopic.php?f=13&t=32681&p=485367
Thanks for the information.

Theravada monks are not allowed to eat garlic by itself, but allowed to eat onions.

Do you know why they are in particular not allowed to eat garlic by itself (unless one is ill, or garlic mixed with other ingredients even when one is not ill)?

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Post by Volo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:10 am

thomaslaw wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:31 am
Do you know why they are in particular not allowed to eat garlic by itself (unless one is ill, or garlic mixed with other ingredients even when one is not ill)?
It seems a certain monk had eaten garlic and had to sit aside during the Buddha's talk in order to not disturb the monks. Not clear what would be the possible disturbance: smell, gases, burping...? May be all three. I know that in Myanmar, where huge amounts of garlic are consumed, many monks do accept garlic, and eat it pretending it's a medicine to improve digestion. Sometimes it might become quite disturbing in the meditation hall. I regret they don't take Buddha's prohibition literally.
Kd.15.34.1 Now at that time the Lord, surrounded by a large assembly, was teaching dhamma sitting down. A certain monk had eaten garlic;333 he sat down to one side, thinking: “In case the monks are incommoded.” The Lord saw that monk who was sitting down at one side; seeing him, he addressed the monks, saying: “Monks, why is this monk sitting to one side?”

BD.5.196 “Lord, this monk has eaten garlic, so he sat down at one side, thinking: ‘In case the monks are incommoded’.”

“But, monks, should that be eaten which, when eaten, can (make the eater) outside such a dhamma-talk as this?”

“That is not so, Lord.”

“Monks, garlic should not be eaten. Whoever should eat it, there is an offence of wrong-doing.”334
In the case of the corresponding prohibition for the nuns the reason was that one nun being invited to accept garlic took too much of it, not knowing moderation. Lay people started to complain, and Buddha made a prohibition. But for nuns it's paccitiya (a more serious offense).

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