Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

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Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by fornoxe » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:27 pm

Good hi everyone.

So first, I have to apologize. I am french and as usual we dont speak a aw' english. But, I am a traveller and know some stuff.

I would like to find a good place where I can find the strictiest monastery. In sri lanka or somewhere else.

I found the thai forest monestery and the guldawa tradition in sri lanka. But even in english, I cant find any information about difference between them.

I found this monestery : http://www.nissarana.lk/

So I will be very please if you knew or find something.

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Another thinking is : should I go in sri lanka or any theravada country or learn theravada in thai forest tradition in my own country. I feel like both are attractive and negative aspect.

This is the french one theravada monastery : http://bodhinyanarama.org/

So I would like your experience about this question? Should I stay or should I go?


Cheers

Loic

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by fornoxe » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:38 am

I am looking also for information about waturawila group :sage:

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by dylanj » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:42 am

Mithrigala Nissarana Vanaya is the monastery Venerable Bhikkhu Kaṭukurunde Ñāṇananda stayed at until he left under the impression it had gone into decline & deviated from the high standards they once held. I trust his judgment, personally.
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by dylanj » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:43 am

Anyway I'd avoid Thai/Western traditions in favor of Sri Lankan ones as a general rule. But you know not all the good places will be something you can find on google.
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by fornoxe » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:05 am

thanks for reply.

Sure I cant find plenty of information on duckduckgo but Its still a good stream of information. But also, i created a topic here for people knew the fact reality about sri kanka can give me a hand.

In fact, I would like to understand the difference between theravada school especially in vinaya rules.
I'd avoid Thai/Western traditions in favor of Sri Lankan ones as a general rule
: I dont understand what you mean :mrgreen:

if you know Katukurunde Nyanananda Thera, maybe you should know also witch monestery he liked. And witch one i was before he passed

cheers

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by fornoxe » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:16 am

furtheremore, i dont eat and i dont want to eat milk eggs honey and cheese (yeah iam fr). I think its a big oppression against animals. i live without

I know bikkhu have to eat everythings they give to them. But... :shrug:

Edit : also Sri lanka is not definitive idea. Myanmar or any country around the world can be my choice.

still :reading:

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by Polar Bear » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:28 pm

This guide is probably the best internet resource on Sri Lankan monasteries for the serious practitioner:

Buddhist Forest Monasteries and Meditation Centres in Sri Lanka
A Guide for Foreign Buddhist Monastics and Lay Practitioners


:anjali:
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by fornoxe » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:41 pm

cheers but i read it already few time.

We can read guldawa almost everywhere. :D But I would like more details :D I would like to understand how different tradition apply vinyana.

And what do you think about witch country I should learn theravada : my own country, sri lanka, myanmar, thailand? I would like your experience here. I already wrote a email to the french theravada monestery. But there some stuff I dont like (money, like 50 usd by days for retreat...)
And how you can do mendicity in western country? And the quality about the teacher.

I will go back in Nepal in Vipassana monestery:retreat center in Lumbini in October.


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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by fornoxe » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:35 pm

I understood somethings : Finding a small monastery, with a good abbot. far away from big money and political vision is good way to develop dhamma.

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by fornoxe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:10 pm

I am thinking about witch country is the best to start learning bouddhism.
First it looks hard to understand the difference between theravada and maha yana.

My brain say take the easiest (not so but i hope you understand my think), so theravada.

Myanmar and Sri lanka offers the same type of monastery and bouddhism vision? The visa in Myanmar is as easy as Sri lanka?

Thank you for your hand

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Re: Sub theravada tradition in Sri lanka (guldawa) and witch country to take the robe

Post by fornoxe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:29 pm

And in fact, Thailand or Lao (I know this both country) could be good.

I am just scare about Thailand is too much westerns people and too much touristic.

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