Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
just a friendly reminder that it's spelled 'bhikkhunī' with diacritic over the second i
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5
— Ud 5.5
As far as I remember, they were ordained just by 4 bhikkhus on the (taken out of context) Vinaya statement spoken by the Buddha: "Monks, I allow you to ordain women" (or close to that). Famous thai scholar Ven. Payutto explains that this phrase Buddha used only once in particular circumstances - when 500 women, followers of Maha Pajapati Gotami, needed to be ordained (this happened just right after he allowed Maha Pajapati Gotami to become a bhikkhuni). After monks ordained all these women, Buddha established general (overriding) rule: from now on 4 bhikkhus + 4 bhukkhunis are needed. This is how bhikkhuni sangha lived on since then.Thanks Zom
What about all the nuns underwent full ordination under Ajahn Braham?
I have an opposite opinion.My understanding is now there are validly ordained nuns.