Bhikhuni ordination?

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by SarathW » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:18 am

Thanks Zom
What about all the nuns underwent full ordination under Ajahn Braham?
My understanding is now there are validly ordained nuns.
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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:43 am

maraṇa's link is good, and this one as well www.bhikkhuni.net/wp-content/uploads/20 ... japati.pdf
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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by thomaslaw » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:41 pm

SarathW wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:18 am
Thanks Zom
What about all the nuns underwent full ordination under Ajahn Braham?
My understanding is now there are validly ordained nuns.
It seems the full ordination is not accepted under one man? It is really a matter of the Sangha.

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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by SarathW » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:53 pm

It seems the full ordination is not accepted under one man?
Why only one man?
There are many male monks with AB.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by thomaslaw » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:58 pm

SarathW wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:53 pm
It seems the full ordination is not accepted under one man?
Why only one man?
There are many male monks with AB.
Only male monks?

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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by SarathW » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:01 am

Sorry, what do you mean by one man?
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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by thomaslaw » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:06 am

SarathW wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:01 am
Sorry, what do you mean by one man?
".... under Ajahn Braham"

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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by SarathW » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:26 am

How can this be legal then?
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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:35 am

just a friendly reminder that it's spelled 'bhikkhunī' with diacritic over the second i
:anjali:
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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by thomaslaw » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:35 am

SarathW wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:26 am
How can this be legal then?
not legal, indeed.

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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by SarathW » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:13 am

What they have to make it legal?
Or
What should they have done to make it legal?
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Re: Bhikhuni ordination?

Post by Zom » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:29 am

Thanks Zom
What about all the nuns underwent full ordination under Ajahn Braham?
As far as I remember, they were ordained just by 4 bhikkhus on the (taken out of context) Vinaya statement spoken by the Buddha: "Monks, I allow you to ordain women" (or close to that). Famous thai scholar Ven. Payutto explains that this phrase Buddha used only once in particular circumstances - when 500 women, followers of Maha Pajapati Gotami, needed to be ordained (this happened just right after he allowed Maha Pajapati Gotami to become a bhikkhuni). After monks ordained all these women, Buddha established general (overriding) rule: from now on 4 bhikkhus + 4 bhukkhunis are needed. This is how bhikkhuni sangha lived on since then.
My understanding is now there are validly ordained nuns.
I have an opposite opinion.

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