Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Post by Lucas Oliveira » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:39 pm

Female Monastics in Thailand Barred From Paying Respects to Late King

https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/femal ... -late-king


Female monks barred from paying respects

"Whatever challenges lie ahead, we will still practise as bhikkhuni. Whatever resistance from the establishment, more women will choose to pursue a spiritual path as female monastics," said Ven Dhammananda

"Nothing can stop it."

http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opin ... g-respects



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Post by CecilN » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:59 am

Lucas Oliveira wrote:Female Monastics in Thailand Barred From Paying Respects to Late King

https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/femal ... -late-king


Female monks barred from paying respects

"Whatever challenges lie ahead, we will still practise as bhikkhuni. Whatever resistance from the establishment, more women will choose to pursue a spiritual path as female monastics," said Ven Dhammananda

"Nothing can stop it."

http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opin ... g-respects
After reading the inspiring article about bhikkhuni Venerable Candā & the Anukampa Bhikkhuni Project, I found this article about the Thai King's funeral very disturbing because, imo, it does not matter who you are, even the Lord Buddha himself, when you are not invited you are not invited. Demanding privileges, status & respect is not the practise of Buddhism. This is not the way to earn respect & support by gate crashing a funeral (particularly when you could be meditating, following the Lord Buddha's directive).
When this was said, the venerable Sāriputta asked the Blessed One: “Venerable sir, which of us has spoken well?” “You have all spoken well, Sāriputta, each in his own way. Hear also from me what kind of bhikkhu could illuminate this Gosinga Sāla-tree Wood. Here, Sāriputta, when a bhikkhu has returned from his almsround, after his meal, he sits down, folds his legs crosswise, sets his body erect, and establishing mindfulness in front of him, resolves: ‘I shall not break this sitting position until through not clinging my mind is liberated from the taints.’ That kind of bhikkhu could illuminate this Gosinga Sālatree Wood.”

That is what the Blessed One said. Those venerable ones were satisfied and delighted in the Blessed One’s words.

MN 32

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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Post by pilgrim » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:53 pm

CecilN wrote: After reading the inspiring article about bhikkhuni Venerable Candā & the Anukampa Bhikkhuni Project, I found this article about the Thai King's funeral very disturbing because, imo, it does not matter who you are, even the Lord Buddha himself, when you are not invited you are not invited. Demanding privileges, status & respect is not the practise of Buddhism. This is not the way to earn respect & support by gate crashing a funeral (particularly when you could be meditating, following the Lord Buddha's directive).
I'm don't know what is the practice in your land but in Asia and in Thailand, one does not invite others to a funeral. A funeral is generally open to the public and anyone can come to pay one's respect to the deceased. Stopping a person from attending a funeral is considered extremely bad form. Consider this: Laymen, laywomen, Theravada monks, maechees, Thai Mahayana monks and nuns, foreign nationals, Catholic monks and nuns, clergy of all religions and of all nationalities are not stopped. But Thai bhikkhunis are not allowed?

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Post by Sabbamitta » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:52 pm

Being a Bhikkhuni: Not only difficult within the Thai Forest Sangha

Unfortunately there are many places in the world where it is not easy for women to lead the monastic life!

I'd like to share this article in this thread: https://www.samita.eu/en/2017/01/27/bhi ... -politics/
And here you can read Saccavadi's story in her own words: https://sujato.wordpress.com/2010/02/16 ... dis-story/

I am quite new on this forum and found this thread on Bhikkhuni ordination, going back already for many years. I didn't read all the posts (a few thousand, I guess), but just some at the beginning and some at the end. So I am not sure if the provided information is already known to the community. My apologies if it is nothing new.

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Post by Lucas Oliveira » Tue May 30, 2017 2:12 am

The Validity of bhikkhunī Ordination by bhikkhus Only, According to the Pāli Vinaya

https://discourse.suttacentral.net/t/th ... inaya/5489



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Re: Bhikkhuni Ordination performed - by Ajahn Brahmavamso

Post by DNS » Tue May 30, 2017 3:15 am

Lucas Oliveira wrote:The Validity of bhikkhunī Ordination by bhikkhus Only, According to the Pāli Vinaya

https://discourse.suttacentral.net/t/th ... inaya/5489
From Ven. Analayo's letter:

"This seems to me not to take
fully into account the reality on the ground in Theravada countries. The revival has already happened
nearly twenty years ago and this revival began with senior and well-trained nuns taking bhikkhuni ordination.
This is one of the reasons why the revival has been so successful. The whole problem of how
to train a bhikkhuni Sangha lacking a living tradition has already been solved by relying on the living
tradition of the eight and ten precept nuns and the compassionate guidance of those bhikkhus who supported
and continue to support them.
"

Danke schön Ven. Analayo.

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Post by Lucas Oliveira » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:54 pm

Daughters of Buddhism in Thailand Find Growing Acceptance in the Face of Official Disapproval

https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/daugh ... isapproval



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