Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by Nwad » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:38 pm

Do you know the french monastery?
http://bodhinyanarama.org/
Oh yes its true, i forgot this monastry, but i as i know this monastry is just affiliated to Ajhan Chah lineage, and not a part of it. Also i dont know if Abbot of this monastry can give full ordination.
It would be better for me to visit it ;) Why you dont go here actualy?
you wrote : "Anyway i prefere western monasteries with it Discipline."
Can you explain that please?
As i know from other peoples, there is many monastries in traditional buddhist countries where Vinaya is not well respected (money, internet etc) so unless to search on the place a good one or go to a one who is recomendet to you.
I am not a knower of SriLanka so i cant help you here :(

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by fornoxe » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:56 pm

I wrote a mail to the french monestery. How they works, the application of vinaya and why they take 50e by days for meditation retreat.
Still no response.
For me the most important rules (after monastic sex and murder who is alive) is the relationship with money.
Someone send me a mp with a monastery : SBS in malaysia. where the big boss of theravada is. But i am scare its too huge for me. I like small community.

I am vegan also. I know it is not possible to choose food in asian country. (I really cant eat meat, cheese and milk can be ok sometime). But for western country?

Who that works for monk in western country? They dont go to street for asking food? :popcorn:

:anjali:

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by fornoxe » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:35 pm

Muttodaya looks like a nice place. Small, not a retreat for lay people. Some kuti.

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by Nwad » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:06 pm

fornoxe wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:56 pm
I wrote a mail to the french monestery. How they works, the application of vinaya and why they take 50e by days for meditation retreat.
Still no response.
For me the most important rules (after monastic sex and murder who is alive) is the relationship with money.
Someone send me a mp with a monastery : SBS in malaysia. where the big boss of theravada is. But i am scare its too huge for me. I like small community.

I am vegan also. I know it is not possible to choose food in asian country. (I really cant eat meat, cheese and milk can be ok sometime). But for western country?

Who that works for monk in western country? They dont go to street for asking food? :popcorn:

:anjali:
In Cittaviveka in England Ajhan Succito teach lay peoples about VG and ask them to bring only VG food in monastery. I'am vegan too ;)

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by fornoxe » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:46 pm

Good to know ;)

So you should or have to bring food there? Everyone there is vegan?

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by Nwad » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:50 am

fornoxe wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:46 pm
Good to know ;)

So you should or have to bring food there? Everyone there is vegan?
Ive never been there but this i think everybody is vegetarian , anyway Sangha members havo choice because laity is asked to not bring meet . You have informatiin on their website ;)

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by Samana Johann 1 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:56 am

Why seeking for Devadatta? As Nyom speaks french, maybe approach the wanderer Isidhamma, although not perfect, with greatings from a stranger from Cambodia, he might be of good assistence, since he has gone beyond stingyness.

Good or not good is not a matter of birth, nation, stand. Yet of cause the upanissaya toward food, person, climate... is necessary and it might be that simply the upanissayapaccayena are not given. In that case, even in front of the Buddha, or Arahant, even if hearing the good Dhamma, there is no way for real gain.

Walk, step by step. "Hans in luck"-attitude always wins. Once having no other refuge as the Gems, what ever is possible according ones Nissaya, will come it's way naturaly.
It's not clear if the possibility to take on form here is given, so also this post might be made on merely uncomfortable trust. Please don't be shy to make remark as well as to do what ever with the post you might be inspired to. Key is found here. May it be, how ever, understood as Dhamma-Dana toward the Sangha of Buddhas Savakas and those following them and not thought for any kind of trade or exchange for low purpose for the world. Feel also always welcome here.

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by fornoxe » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:05 pm

Why seeking for Devadatta? As Nyom speaks french, maybe approach the wanderer Isidhamma, although not perfect, with greatings from a stranger from Cambodia, he might be of good assistence, since he has gone beyond stingyness.

Devadatta? because I'am vegan? well, :| I dont have any problem to be that. Does not matter actually :focus:
Isidhamma is a monastery if I understood ? I cant find any information on google and this forum. Can you explain a bit more? It the place where you stayed?

Good or not good is not a matter of birth, nation, stand. Yet of cause the upanissaya toward food, person, climate... is necessary and it might be that simply the upanissayapaccayena are not given. In that case, even in front of the Buddha, or Arahant, even if hearing the good Dhamma, there is no way for real gain.

Sorry I cant understand. I just read the upanissayapaccayena. here : http://www.abhidhamma.org/forums/index. ... wtopic=468 Can you explain a bit more what you mean?

Walk, step by step. "Hans in luck"-attitude always wins. Once having no other refuge as the Gems, what ever is possible according ones Nissaya, will come it's way naturaly.


Hans in luck, even google translate cant help me. Did you say just do nothing and It will come naturaly?

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by fornoxe » Sun May 06, 2018 8:05 am

I am still on it.

I want to try and przctise pa-auk tradition.
In fact you dont have in europe. Thats looks easier to ordain in sri lanka too (after staying as a lay people for a while) and because you have so many monastery you can easely find your way.

But can you tell bthe difference between pa-auk (working on jhanas and abhidhamma) and forest tradition? :namaste:

I will leave france end of september. Go there,try 5 10 monastery during 6 mobths.choose one.

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Re: Europe monastery (forest monk) as good as in asian?

Post by fornoxe » Sun May 06, 2018 8:17 am

Just nissaya in pa auk and forest (and another traditon) have to be clear by me.

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