Origination of feelings

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thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:02 am The point is the SN sutta about the two feelings (kayika vedana and cetasika vedana) is opposed to the "Cetasika" classification in Comprehensive Manual of Abdhidhamma.
How can you come to that conclusion without even read the CMA? And I know you have not read it. If you did, you'd never mistaken cetasikanca for Cetasika.
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santa100 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:16 am
thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:02 am The point is the SN sutta about the two feelings (kayika vedana and cetasika vedana) is opposed to the "Cetasika" classification in Comprehensive Manual of Abdhidhamma.
How can you come to that conclusion without even read the CMA? And I know you have not read it. If you did, you'd never mistaken cetasikanca for Cetasika.
Do you mean you mistaken cetasikanca for Cetasika ?
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thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:25 am Do you mean you mistaken cetasikanca for Cetasika ?
I did read CMA. You did not read CMA. I explained the difference to you. You continue to mistaken them afterward. You actually did not read a single word. Otherwise you'd never make this absurd claim:
thomaslaw wrote:The point is the SN sutta about the two feelings (kayika vedana and cetasika vedana) is opposed to the "Cetasika" classification in Comprehensive Manual of Abdhidhamma.
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santa100 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:26 am
thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:25 am Do you mean you mistaken cetasikanca for Cetasika ?
I did read CMA. You did not read CMA. I explained the difference to you. You continue to mistaken them afterward. You actually did not read a single word. Otherwise you'd never make this absurd claim:
thomaslaw wrote:The point is the SN sutta about the two feelings (kayika vedana and cetasika vedana) is opposed to the "Cetasika" classification in Comprehensive Manual of Abdhidhamma.
This is because you ask:

"I know SN 36.6, the Dart Sutta. Please provide the exact quote where it says KayaVedana sits outside the Cetasika group? Everyone already know feeling can be physical or mental, but where do you see it says physical feeling sits outside the Cetasika group, as opposed to the classification in Comprehensive Manual of Abdhidhamma?"
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thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:35 am This is because you ask:

"I know SN 36.6, the Dart Sutta. Please provide the exact quote where it says KayaVedana sits outside the Cetasika group? Everyone already know feeling can be physical or mental, but where do you see it says physical feeling sits outside the Cetasika group, as opposed to the classification in Comprehensive Manual of Abdhidhamma?"
And after 19 posts, you have not provided a single direct quote from any source to back up your claim. Case in point, you have not answered my question above.
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santa100 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:37 am
thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:35 am This is because you ask:

"I know SN 36.6, the Dart Sutta. Please provide the exact quote where it says KayaVedana sits outside the Cetasika group? Everyone already know feeling can be physical or mental, but where do you see it says physical feeling sits outside the Cetasika group, as opposed to the classification in Comprehensive Manual of Abdhidhamma?"
And after 19 posts, you have not provided a single direct quote from any source to back up your claim. Case in point, you have not answered my question above.
As I replied before:

See SN 36.6 (= SA 470) (pp. 109-111 in Fundamental Teachings of Early Buddhism): Kayika vedana is not the same as cetasika vedana.
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thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:47 am As I replied before:

See SN 36.6 (= SA 470) (pp. 109-111 in Fundamental Teachings of Early Buddhism): Kayika vedana is not the same as cetasika vedana.
For a thousandth time, I didn't ask you the difference between physical and mental feelings. Everyone know they're different. I asked you where in SN 36.6 does it say physical feeling is not under the Cetasika group. Do you understand the difference between Cetasika group versus mental feeling/CetasikancaVedana after I explained it to you? yes or no?
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santa100 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:50 am
thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:47 am As I replied before:

See SN 36.6 (= SA 470) (pp. 109-111 in Fundamental Teachings of Early Buddhism): Kayika vedana is not the same as cetasika vedana.
For a thousandth time, I didn't ask you the difference between physical and mental feelings. Everyone know they're different. I asked where in SN 36.6 does it say physical feeling is not under the Cetasika group. Do you understand the difference between Cetasika group versus mental feeling? yes or no?
It will be better if you make clear the difference between Cetasika group versus mental feeling. :thumbsup:
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thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:52 am It will be better if you make clear the difference between Cetasika group versus mental feeling. :thumbsup:
Already did. It will be better if you read just one word in my posts. :thumbsup:
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santa100 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:54 am
thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:52 am It will be better if you make clear the difference between Cetasika group versus mental feeling. :thumbsup:
Already did. It will be better if you just read one word in my posts. :thumbsup:
Did you when you first asked the question? :clap: :jumping:
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thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:58 am Did you when you first asked the question? :clap: :jumping:
Didn't expect you need to be spoon fed :clap: :jumping:
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santa100 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:59 am
thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:58 am Did you when you first asked the question? :clap: :jumping:
Didn't expect you need to be spoon fed :clap: :jumping:
So, what the difference between Cetasika group versus mental feeling? :juggling:
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thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:01 am So, what the difference between Cetasika group versus mental feeling? :juggling:
So, can you find my post where I already explained the difference? :juggling:
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santa100 wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:02 am
thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:01 am So, what the difference between Cetasika group versus mental feeling? :juggling:
So, can you find my post that I already explained the difference? :juggling:
No, can you find it? :thumbsup:
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thomaslaw wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:06 am No, can you find it? :thumbsup:
No, can you find it? :thumbsup:
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