you get the gist after reading the further example,Kumara wrote: ↑Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:40 am I've been pondering over this term: saññāmanasikārā
Bhikkhu Bodhi: perception and attention (From Connected Discourses of the Buddha, SN 40.1)
Ajahn Thanissaro: attention to perceptions (From https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html)
Would like to ask those who has researched into this for comments.
I'm post this under Early Buddhism because I want to just stick to understandings from the Suttas. Please leave out commentarial interpretations. Thanks.
https://suttacentral.net/an9.34/en/sujato
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.htmlWhile a mendicant is in such a meditation, should perceptions and attentions accompanied by sensual pleasures beset them, that’s an affliction for them. Suppose a happy person were to experience pain; that would be an affliction for them.
Suppose a happy person were to experience pain; that would be an affliction for them. In the same way, should perceptions and attentions accompanied by sensual pleasures beset them, that’s an affliction for them.
sensual pleasure when it arises it demands your attention and you are perceptive over it.(i guess)If, as he remains there, he is beset with attention to perceptions dealing with sensuality, that is an affliction for him.
Just as pain arises as an affliction in a healthy person for his affliction, even so the attention to perceptions dealing with sensuality that beset the monk is an affliction for him.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html
'Venerable Ananda, sir, we are householders who indulge in sensuality, delight in sensuality, enjoy sensuality, rejoice in sensuality. For us — indulging in sensuality, delighting in sensuality, enjoying sensuality, rejoicing in sensuality — renunciation seems like a sheer drop-off.
The thought occurred to me: 'What is the cause, what is the reason, why my heart doesn't leap up at renunciation, doesn't grow confident, steadfast, or firm, seeing it as peace?' Then the thought occurred to me: 'I haven't seen the drawback of sensual pleasures;
i think both translations doesn't show a reality(when presented without context or atleast example) when being healthy then the pain is itself(figurately) what demands attention. So it is when in jhana then 5 strings of sensuality are affliction while for a regular person they are not because they welcome it."So at a later time, having seen the drawback of sensual pleasures, I pursued that theme; having understood the reward of renunciation, I familiarized myself with it. My heart leaped up at renunciation, grew confident, steadfast, & firm, seeing it as peace. Then, quite withdrawn from sensuality, withdrawn from unskillful qualities, I entered & remained in the first jhana: rapture & pleasure born from withdrawal, accompanied by directed thought & evaluation.
"As I remained there, I was beset with attention to perceptions dealing with sensuality. That was an affliction for me. Just as pain arises as an affliction for a healthy person, even so the attention to perceptions dealing with sensuality that beset me was an affliction for me.