Searching for a sutta about entertainment

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Searching for a sutta about entertainment

Post by TamHanhHi » Sun May 13, 2018 3:16 pm

Hi all,

I'm trying to find a sutta that mentions something along the lines of the drawback of entertainment (music, shows, parties, etc.) I feel like I remember the sutta sayin that one drawback is that a drawback is that one is always searching for the next source of good music or good entertainment, which makes the process stressful.

Or maybe I'm imaginging things :lol:

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Re: Searching for a sutta about entertainment

Post by Sam Vara » Sun May 13, 2018 3:39 pm

There are, young householder, these six evil consequences in frequenting theatrical shows. He is ever thinking:


(i) where is there dancing?
(ii) where is there singing?
(iii) where is there music?
(iv) where is there recitation?
(v) where is there playing with cymbals?
(vi) where is there pot-blowing?
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .nara.html

Could it be this one?

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Re: Searching for a sutta about entertainment

Post by TamHanhHi » Sun May 13, 2018 8:08 pm

That's the one! :namaste:
"Just as a large banyan tree, on level ground where four roads meet, is a haven for the birds all around, even so a lay person of conviction is a haven for many people: monks, nuns, male lay followers, & female lay followers."AN 5.38 :candle: | Blog at http://dhammareflections.wordpress.com

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Re: Searching for a sutta about entertainment

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Mon May 14, 2018 12:53 am

"Apparently, headman, I haven't been able to get past you by saying, 'Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that.' So I will simply answer you. Any beings who are not devoid of passion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of passion, focus with even more passion on things inspiring passion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Any beings who are not devoid of aversion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of aversion, focus with even more aversion on things inspiring aversion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Any beings who are not devoid of delusion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of delusion, focus with even more delusion on things inspiring delusion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Thus the actor — himself intoxicated & heedless, having made others intoxicated & heedless — with the breakup of the body, after death, is reborn in what is called the hell of laughter. But if he holds such a view as this: 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas,' that is his wrong view. Now, there are two destinations for a person with wrong view, I tell you: either hell or the animal womb."
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Re: Searching for a sutta about entertainment

Post by TamHanhHi » Tue May 15, 2018 12:30 pm

Dhammarakkhito wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 12:53 am
"...Thus the actor — himself intoxicated & heedless, having made others intoxicated & heedless — with the breakup of the body, after death, is reborn in what is called the hell of laughter."
This reminds me of the first (and last) time I went to a production called "Drunk Shakespeare" in New York City. I never really saw the words of this sutta come to life before then.
"Just as a large banyan tree, on level ground where four roads meet, is a haven for the birds all around, even so a lay person of conviction is a haven for many people: monks, nuns, male lay followers, & female lay followers."AN 5.38 :candle: | Blog at http://dhammareflections.wordpress.com

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Re: Searching for a sutta about entertainment

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Tue May 15, 2018 4:01 pm

yeah it's weird af

It is lamentating, bhikkhus, in the discipline of the noble ones, to sing. It is being out of one's mind, bhikkhus, in the discipline of the noble ones, to dance. It is childish, bhikkhus, in the discipline of the noble ones to laugh excessively showing the teeth. Therefore, bhikkhus, having given up{1} singing, having given up dancing, it is suitable for you who delight in the Dhamma to smile moderately mindful smiles.
http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/angu ... 3-108.html

Oneself gets attached to that intonation, others get attached to that intonation, householders get angry: 'Those ascetics who are followers of the Sakyans' son sing in the same way that we do!',{1} there is a break in concentration for those striving [to produce] musicality, and the upcoming generations imitate what they see.
www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/anguttara/05/an05-209.html

"Now suppose that a magician or magician's apprentice were to display a magic trick at a major intersection, and a man with good eyesight were to see it, observe it, & appropriately examine it. To him — seeing it, observing it, & appropriately examining it — it would appear empty, void, without substance: for what substance would there be in a magic trick? In the same way, a monk sees, observes, & appropriately examines any consciousness that is past, future, or present; internal or external; blatant or subtle; common or sublime; far or near. To him — seeing it, observing it, & appropriately examining it — it would appear empty, void, without substance: for what substance would there be in consciousness?
[...]
Form is like a glob of foam; feeling, a bubble; perception, a mirage; fabrications, a banana tree; consciousness, a magic trick — this has been taught by the Kinsman of the Sun. However you observe them, appropriately examine them, they're empty, void to whoever sees them appropriately.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_g ... d_not_play
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