Dhammas

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thomaslaw
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Re: Dhammas

Post by thomaslaw » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:28 am

aflatun wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:02 am
thomaslaw wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:06 am
Hi

Dhammas (conditioned phenomena), e.g. khandhas, Ayatanas, not only should be seen as they really are as anicca (impermanent), dukkha (suffering), anatta (not-self), but also should be seen as they really are as rittaka (void, without reality), as tucchaka (insubstantial), as asaaraka (lacking essence), and as su~n~naka (empty), according to SN 22.95 and SN 35.197 (See Choong Mun-keat, The Fundamental Teachings of Early Buddhism, pp. 53-54, 92).

It seems that Dhammas are in fact not real, without reality! :meditate:

Thomas
Thanks for this awesome reference thomaslaw
So, can we consider: The Buddha in fact did not teach '' 'ultimate reality' (paramattha) with their own characteristics''? The term paramattha seems not found in the suttas?

Thomas

Saengnapha
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Re: Dhammas

Post by Saengnapha » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:18 am

thomaslaw wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:28 am
aflatun wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:02 am
thomaslaw wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:06 am
Hi

Dhammas (conditioned phenomena), e.g. khandhas, Ayatanas, not only should be seen as they really are as anicca (impermanent), dukkha (suffering), anatta (not-self), but also should be seen as they really are as rittaka (void, without reality), as tucchaka (insubstantial), as asaaraka (lacking essence), and as su~n~naka (empty), according to SN 22.95 and SN 35.197 (See Choong Mun-keat, The Fundamental Teachings of Early Buddhism, pp. 53-54, 92).

It seems that Dhammas are in fact not real, without reality! :meditate:

Thomas
Thanks for this awesome reference thomaslaw
So, can we consider: The Buddha in fact did not teach '' 'ultimate reality' (paramattha) with their own characteristics''? The term paramattha seems not found in the suttas?

Thomas
A point often overlooked or misunderstood.

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Re: Dhammas

Post by Dinsdale » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:01 am

thomaslaw wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:28 am
aflatun wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:02 am
thomaslaw wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:06 am
Hi

Dhammas (conditioned phenomena), e.g. khandhas, Ayatanas, not only should be seen as they really are as anicca (impermanent), dukkha (suffering), anatta (not-self), but also should be seen as they really are as rittaka (void, without reality), as tucchaka (insubstantial), as asaaraka (lacking essence), and as su~n~naka (empty), according to SN 22.95 and SN 35.197 (See Choong Mun-keat, The Fundamental Teachings of Early Buddhism, pp. 53-54, 92).

It seems that Dhammas are in fact not real, without reality! :meditate:

Thomas
Thanks for this awesome reference thomaslaw
So, can we consider: The Buddha in fact did not teach '' 'ultimate reality' (paramattha) with their own characteristics''? The term paramattha seems not found in the suttas?

Thomas
So is this wrong then?
https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/paramattha-dhamma
Buddha save me from new-agers!

Saengnapha
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Re: Dhammas

Post by Saengnapha » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:01 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:01 am
thomaslaw wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:28 am
aflatun wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:02 am


Thanks for this awesome reference thomaslaw
So, can we consider: The Buddha in fact did not teach '' 'ultimate reality' (paramattha) with their own characteristics''? The term paramattha seems not found in the suttas?

Thomas
So is this wrong then?
https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/paramattha-dhamma
These are abhidhamma explanations, not sutta citations.

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