Does anyone know of a good critique of Abhidhamma/Commentaries in Burmese?

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Does anyone know of a good critique of Abhidhamma/Commentaries in Burmese?

Post by dylanj » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:51 am

I have a good friend from Burma, he holds very strongly to commentarial & abhidhammic views of the Dhamma...I try to explain the flaws but the language barrier is too much.
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Does anyone know of a good critique of Abhidhamma/Commentaries in Burmese?

Post by retrofuturist » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:54 am

Greetings,

Maybe best just to leave it?

I'm sure you appreciate your friend not making efforts to convert you to Burmese Buddhism?...

Metta,
Paul. :)
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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Post by Dhammarakkhito » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:05 am

friends don't led friends drive drunk. friends don't let friends hold wrong views?
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Re: Does anyone know of a good critique of Abhidhamma/Commentaries in Burmese?

Post by retrofuturist » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:10 am

Greetings,
Dhammarakkhito wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:05 am
friends don't led friends drive drunk. friends don't let friends hold wrong views?
As I see it...

If someone is Burmese, and has access to Burmese Buddhism, I'd be wary of blitzing holes in something of theirs, especially if I didn't have something which was both better and understandable to replace it with.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Does anyone know of a good critique of Abhidhamma/Commentaries in Burmese?

Post by dylanj » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:24 am

Removing commentary & abhidhamma from Burmese Buddhism is better than Burmese Buddhism as it is
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Does anyone know of a good critique of Abhidhamma/Commentaries in Burmese?

Post by dylanj » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:27 am

Anyway, he does try to convince me to read abhidhamma & commentary so I think it's only fair :)
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Does anyone know of a good critique of Abhidhamma/Commentaries in Burmese?

Post by pilgrim » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:35 am

dylanj wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:51 am
I have a good friend from Burma, he holds very strongly to commentarial & abhidhammic views of the Dhamma...I try to explain the flaws but the language barrier is too much.
And you are of the view you know better?

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Re: Does anyone know of a good critique of Abhidhamma/Commentaries in Burmese?

Post by dylanj » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:39 am

This is the Early Buddhism subforum. I would think here I don't need to defend my view that the commentaries & abhidhamma are flawed.
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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