Untraced suttas

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Faelig
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Untraced suttas

Postby Faelig » Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:27 pm

Dear all,

I came across the following passage in the Visuddhimagga (Bhikkhu Ñanamoli's Path of Purification, page 106):
And this is said in answer to the question of Sopáka: “Perception of visible forms is quite clear, Blessed One, perception of bones is not clear” (Source untraced29)

The corresponding note is:
29. Also quoted in A-a V 79 on AN 11:9. Cf. Sn 1119. A similar quotation with Sopáka is found in Vism-mhþ 334–35, see note 1 to XI.2.


It seems that there are quite a few untraced suttas and untraced commentaries buried in the various commentaries and treatises. Do you know of any website or book listing and/or analysing all these untraced suttas?

Faelig

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Re: Untraced suttas

Postby Coëmgenu » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:42 pm

Having tried to look this up in the past, I think "UA" is the citation tradition for untraced sutttas. These two papers here have citations of untraced suttas, and they use "UA" as their citation. There are a quite a few of them.
Bhagavā arahaṃ sammasāmbuddho:
Svākkhāto yena bhagavatā dhammo / Supaṭipanno yassa bhagavato sāvakasaṅgho
Tammayaṃ bhagavantaṃ sadhammaṃ sasaṅghaṃ / Imehi sakkārehi yathārahaṃ āropitehi abhipūjayāma.
(Dedication of Offerings)
此等諸法,法住、法空、法如、法爾,法不離如,法不異如,審諦真實、不顛倒。These many dharmāḥ, the residence of these dharmāḥ, the emptiness of these dharmāḥ, these dharmāḥ self-explain, these dharmāḥ are thus, these dharmāḥ do not depart from their self-explaining, these dharmāḥ are not different than their self-explaining, judged as truly real, not delusional. (SA 296, 因緣法)
揭諦揭諦,波羅揭諦,波羅僧揭諦,菩提薩婆訶

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Re: Untraced suttas

Postby Dmytro » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:49 am

Hi Coëmgenu,

Coëmgenu wrote:Having tried to look this up in the past, I think "UA" is the citation tradition for untraced sutttas.


That's Udana-Atthakatha.

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Re: Untraced suttas

Postby Coëmgenu » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:11 pm

Dmytro wrote:Hi Coëmgenu,

Coëmgenu wrote:Having tried to look this up in the past, I think "UA" is the citation tradition for untraced sutttas.


That's Udana-Atthakatha.
Then never mind lol. Back to the drawing board.
Bhagavā arahaṃ sammasāmbuddho:
Svākkhāto yena bhagavatā dhammo / Supaṭipanno yassa bhagavato sāvakasaṅgho
Tammayaṃ bhagavantaṃ sadhammaṃ sasaṅghaṃ / Imehi sakkārehi yathārahaṃ āropitehi abhipūjayāma.
(Dedication of Offerings)
此等諸法,法住、法空、法如、法爾,法不離如,法不異如,審諦真實、不顛倒。These many dharmāḥ, the residence of these dharmāḥ, the emptiness of these dharmāḥ, these dharmāḥ self-explain, these dharmāḥ are thus, these dharmāḥ do not depart from their self-explaining, these dharmāḥ are not different than their self-explaining, judged as truly real, not delusional. (SA 296, 因緣法)
揭諦揭諦,波羅揭諦,波羅僧揭諦,菩提薩婆訶


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