vitakka in first jhāna, spelled out so you can't hide from the truth

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vitakka in first jhāna, spelled out so you can't hide from the truth

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Re: vitakka in first jhāna, spelled out so you can't hide from the truth

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What truth tho?
When you decide not to go out, instead stay with unsatisfied urges.

are the unsatisfied urges = "quite withdrawn from sensuality"?

during that time, aren't the mind occupied with thinking about unsatisfied sensual pleasures, the mind is occupied with thinking about it ="directed thought"?
other words vitakkam vicaram denotes the sensual pleasure, what also is sankappa.

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Re: vitakka in first jhāna, spelled out so you can't hide from the truth

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https://suttacentral.net/sn1.64/en/sujato wrote: “What fetters the world?“Kiṃsu saṃyojano loko,
What explores it?kiṃsu tassa vicāraṇaṃ;
With the giving up of whatKissassu vippahānena,
is extinguishment spoken of?”nibbānaṃ iti vuccatī”ti.

“Delight fetters the world.“Nandīsaṃyojano loko,
Thought explores it.vitakkassa vicāraṇaṃ;
With the giving up of cravingTaṇhāya vippahānena,
extinguishment is spoken of.”nibbānaṃ iti vuccatī”ti.
vitakka explores(vicaram) the loka/world.
http://dictionary.sutta.org/browse/l/loko wrote: lokoPali-Dictionary Vipassana Research Institute
loko:The universe; a world; the world; the inhabitants of a world or region; mankind; a being,a creature
https://suttacentral.net/sn1.56/en/sujato wrote: “What gives birth to a person?“Kiṃsu janeti purisaṃ,
What do they have that runs about?kiṃsu tassa vidhāvati;
What enters transmigration?Kiṃsu saṃsāramāpādi,
From what are they not free?”kismā na parimuccatī”ti.

“Craving gives birth to a person.“Taṇhā janeti purisaṃ,
Their mind is what runs about.cittamassa vidhāvati;
A sentient being enters transmigration.Satto saṃsāramāpādi,
From suffering they are not free.”dukkhā na parimuccatī”ti.
citta is what explores the person.

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