You must keep in mind that mano/citta is the forerunner of all phenomena so the feelings are naturally going to be Mind made but they are a satipatthana of their own nevertheless.DooDoot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:54 pmNo, it is unlikely they overlap, which is why there are 4 separate tetrads. The word "sankhara" is probably translated wrongly. The term "citta sankhara" refers to "feeling & perception" therefore each of the four stages in the 2nd tetrad are obviously about experiencing feelings (vedana).
"In-&-out breaths are bodily sankhara. Directed thought & evaluation are verbal sankhara. Perceptions & feelings are mind sankhara."
The word "citta" means "mind" rather than "mental".
<Ya.m ca kho eta.m bhikkhave vuccati citta.m iti pi mano iti pi
vi~n~na.m iti pi...
"But that which is called Citta and Mano and Vinnana arises as one thing
and ceases as another by day and night."
1. Manopubbaṅgamā dhammā manoseṭṭhā manomayā
Manasā ce paduṭṭhena bhāsati vā karoti vā
Tato naṃ dukkhamanveti cakkaṃ'va vahato padaṃ.
2. Manopubbaṅgamā dhammā manoseṭṭhā manomayā
Manasā ce pasannena bhāsati vā karoti vā
Tato naṃ sukhamanveti chāyā'va anapāyinī.
Therefore "mind sankhara" are the last to cease in a one-by-one model