Taking Refuge and Precepts

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Re: Taking Refuge and Precepts

Post by Cittasanto » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:57 pm

in a book I have by a former monk in the back he specifically says the formality is not necessary all you have to do is live by them to considder yourself a buddhist (not a direct quote), the saying them and the monks presence is a added bonus I guess.
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Re: Taking Refuge and Precepts

Post by clw_uk » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:11 pm

Thank you green, snowmelt and manapa

I to agree that the real refuge is taken inside us my practicing and understanding Dhamma

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Taking Refuge and Precepts

Post by GrahamR » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:13 am

clw_uk wrote:I have never been to a temple or been on retreat because where I live the nearest Theravada Monastery is quite far away and it has been difficult for me to be able to travel to it. :namaste:
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The main 4 Therevada temples in the UK have local groups which meet in people's houses or in halls.
If you tell me where you live (privately if you wish) I can tell you where your nearest group is.
It's not quite like going to a temple, but it's still helpful
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Re: Taking Refuge and Precepts

Post by Nicolas » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:29 pm

Unearthing this old topic (and there are other similar ones too if you look around) for binocular:
binocular wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:49 pm
Crazy cloud wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:13 am
If one doesn't have a teacher one make use of the 5 precepts and the 3 refuge
:(
How can one take refuge without a teacher?
-- Anyway, this is for another thread ...

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Re: Taking Refuge and Precepts

Post by DNS » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 pm

Nicolas wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:29 pm
Unearthing this old topic (and there are other similar ones too if you look around) for binocular:
binocular wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:49 pm
Crazy cloud wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:13 am
If one doesn't have a teacher one make use of the 5 precepts and the 3 refuge
:(
How can one take refuge without a teacher?
-- Anyway, this is for another thread ...
:thumbsup:

One can take the 3 Refuges online here:
https://what-buddha-said.net/sangha/Ref ... ecepts.htm

Remain with the Dhamma as an island, the Dhamma as your refuge, without anything else as a refuge.” Samyutta Nikaya 47.13 and also at Digha Nikaya 26.

Even without a teacher one can take the 3 Refuges. And then one can consult the Pali Canon for the teachings. When clarification is needed, one can come over to DW and ask.

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Re: Taking Refuge and Precepts

Post by binocular » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:52 am

DNS wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 pm
One can take the 3 Refuges online here:
https://what-buddha-said.net/sangha/Ref ... ecepts.htm
This only explains the external procedure, but not the justification for taking refuge; it also doesn't seem to say anything about how to take refuge without this seeming like a condemnation of oneself ...
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Re: Taking Refuge and Precepts

Post by Justsit » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:02 am

Aloka wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:07 am
This is worth reading:
Very nice, thanks for posting this. :thumbsup:

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