Source of this Buddha's teaching?

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newbee
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Source of this Buddha's teaching?

Post by newbee » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:39 pm

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for a teaching I read in some book on Buddhism. It's been a long time since I read it, so I can't recall the exact words or the context. From what I vaguely remember: the Buddha was advising someone that his doctrine (hmm.. perhaps his moral teachings?) would be helpful for a person living on the earth if they practiced it, even though one did not experience enlightenment personally. I suppose this is from a discourse. I tried googling using a bunch of words but the search results didn't help. Could someone point out the source of this?

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Re: Source of this Buddha's teaching?

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:53 pm

Might it be related to the Apannaka Sutta?

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html

It's long and complicated, but Ajahn Thanissaro's translation and introduction make the gist a bit clearer.

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Re: Source of this Buddha's teaching?

Post by JohnK » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:50 pm

"...the practice is essentially a practice, and not a theory to be idly discussed...right view leaves unanswered many questions about the cosmos and the self, and directs your attention to what needs to be done to escape from the ravages of suffering." Thanissaro Bhikkhu, On The Path.

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Re: Source of this Buddha's teaching?

Post by newbee » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:57 am

Sam Vara wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:53 pm
Might it be related to the Apannaka Sutta?

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html

It's long and complicated, but Ajahn Thanissaro's translation and introduction make the gist a bit clearer.
Thanks Sam Vara. :reading:

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Re: Source of this Buddha's teaching?

Post by newbee » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:57 am

JohnK wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:50 pm
Maybe https://legacy.suttacentral.net/en/an3.65
John,
I can't thank you enough for pointing out the source. :clap:
I read a paraphrase of this :
“This noble disciple, Kālāmas, whose mind is in this way without enmity, without ill will, undefiled, and pure, has won four assurances in this very life.

“The first assurance he has won is this: ‘If there is another world, and if there is the fruit and result of good and bad deeds, it is possible that with the breakup of the body, after death, I will be reborn in a good destination, in a heavenly world.’

“The second assurance he has won is this: ‘If there is no other world, and there is no fruit and result of good and bad deeds, still right here, in this very life, I maintain myself in happiness, without enmity and ill will, free of trouble.

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