What is kayena ?

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Re: What is kayena ?

Post by DooDoot » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:20 pm

frank k wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:03 pm
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Very difficult to work out what you are attempting to say. Please explain more. Thanks
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.

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Re: What is kayena ?

Post by frank k » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:31 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:20 pm
frank k wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:03 pm
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Very difficult to work out what you are attempting to say. Please explain more. Thanks
What part was confusing?
The basic idea, is the kaya in the 7 awakening factor's pacification/passadhi, is the same kaya that enters samadhi-bojjhanga, which is manifested in the form of 4 jhanas. So B. Sujato's contradiction, is that he correctly translates kaya under 7 awakening factors, but in his standard formula for four jhanas, he murders the kaya and makes it into a mind only personality that "personally experiences sukha."
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