DooDoot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:09 pm
auto wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:02 pm
kayasankhara. Imo Sutta is letting you know where you are on a dependent origination chain.
Why? Thanks
auto wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:02 pmthat is cittasankhara……..
that close attention
Where does the Pali support this idea? Thanks
Kāyesu kāyaññatarāhaṃ, bhikkhave, evaṃ vadāmi yadidaṃ—assāsapassāsā.
Bhikkhus, I say that the in-breaths and the out-breaths are certain bodies among all bodies.
I tell you, monks, that this — the in-&-out breath — is classed as a body among bodies.
For I say that the in-breaths and out-breaths are an aspect of the body.
I say that this is a certain body among the bodies, namely, in-breathing and out-breathing.
Vedanāsu vedanāññatarāhaṃ, bhikkhave, evaṃ vadāmi yadidaṃ—assāsapassāsānaṃ sādhukaṃ manasikāraṃ.
Bhikkhus, I say that attending carefully in the mind to in-breaths and out-breaths is a certain feeling among all feelings.
I tell you, monks, that this — careful attention to in-&-out breaths — is classed as a feeling among feelings.
For I say that close attention to the in-breaths and out-breaths is an aspect of feelings.
I say that this is a certain feeling among the feelings, namely, giving close attention to in-breathing and out-breathing.
When you are breathing in&out and knowing that you are breathing in&out then at that time meditation is about observing an aspect of a body.
You can assume that it only happen shortly, maybe seconds but at that time when you know you breathing in and out then your meditation object is aspect of a body.
There are three things,
1. you are breathing in and out
2. if knowing that you are breathing in and out
3. then you are cultivating an aspect of a body
that quote focus on the 2nd part
And how is mindfulness of breathing developed and cultivated so as to fulfill the four kinds of mindfulness meditation?
Whenever a mendicant knows that they breathe heavily, or lightly, or experiencing the whole body, or stilling the body’s motion
—at that time they’re meditating by observing an aspect of the body—keen, aware, and mindful, rid of desire and aversion for the world.
For I say that the in-breaths and out-breaths are an aspect of the body.
That’s why at that time a mendicant is meditating by observing an aspect of the body—keen, aware, and mindful, rid of desire and aversion for the world.
next quote concerns the 3rd part (here imo you can read out that the moment when you are observing the aspect of a body is 'awakening factor of mindfulness activated')
And how are the four kinds of mindfulness meditation developed and cultivated so as to fulfill the seven awakening factors?
Whenever a mendicant meditates by observing an aspect of the body, at that time their mindfulness is established and lucid. At such a time, a mendicant has activated the awakening factor of mindfulness; they develop it and perfect it.
your quote is about 1st part
When breathing in heavily they know: ‘I’m breathing in heavily.’ When breathing out heavily they know: ‘I’m breathing out heavily.’ When breathing in lightly they know: ‘I’m breathing in lightly.’ When breathing out lightly they know: ‘I’m breathing out lightly.’ They practice breathing in experiencing the whole body. They practice breathing out experiencing the whole body. They practice breathing in stilling the body’s motion. They practice breathing out stilling the body’s motion.
