Jason Chan the Wandering Australian Monk

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CedarTree wrote:
pilgrim wrote:
SarathW wrote:Bhante Jason now in You Tube.
Further discussion about him in Sutta Central.

https://discourse.suttacentral.net/t/ol ... rds/6157/2
Not being critical here but just out of curiosity, is Ven Jason Chan's robe within the range of acceptable colours? It appears to be just off-white.
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There is appropriate colors....?
Yes, the allowable colours are described in the Khandaka rules that form part of the monastic code.
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Very interesting. What immediately came to mind was the first Dhutanga practice:

1. Refuse-rag-wearer's Practice (pamsukulik'anga) — wearing robes made up from discarded or soiled cloth and not accepting and wearing ready-made robes offered by householders.

I am curious if in the Vinaya it makes exceptions based on the quality of the cloth, location of the person (If there aren't trees or other things needed to dye especially for a solitary alms monk..)


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Ben wrote: Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:29 am What amazes me is that there are obviously a number of renunciates walking around Australia and they're able to do so on alms. Giving alms is not part of the Aussie culture.
Very amazing indeed, especially considering the long distances in between towns within Australia. But I wouldn't necessarily say that giving alms is not part of the Aussie culture. True that Australia doesn't have of a culture of giving alms in the traditional Buddhist sense, but still a deep subculture of vagrancy and wanderlust, most famously represented by the romanticism of the swagman. A subculture that has slowly died off over the years, but still has quite a strong following none the less, whether it be hitchhiking and buskers or beggars. Although hitchhiking has become less frequent than what it used to be in Australia, it is still quite common in places like Northern NSW. And you only have to go to any main city within Australia to see buskers and beggars lining the street.
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Sweeney wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:46 amBut I wouldn't necessarily say that giving alms is not part of the Aussie culture.
True. But Jason did it really tough; often missing a day's meal when in a remote location and unable to obtain food by noon. Also, many people don't know how to feed a monk; particularly Aussie ladies; who will give sweets, fruit or yogurt for breakfast; not realising its his only meal. Its much easier wandering in Asia.
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DooDoot wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:12 am
Sweeney wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:46 amBut I wouldn't necessarily say that giving alms is not part of the Aussie culture.
True. But Jason did it really tough; often missing a day's meal when in a remote location and unable to obtain food by noon. Also, many people don't know how to feed a monk; particularly Aussie ladies; who will give sweets, fruit or yogurt for breakfast; not realising its his only meal. Its much easier wandering in Asia.
Yes, I am not debating this point. Like I said what he is doing is quite amazing! Especially the distance he covers by foot! I was quite amazed when I heard of this as I did not think it possible, considering the hardships that have to be faced by vagrants in Australia (which often include missing daily meals, and being stranded in remote locations.) Let alone traveling on foot as a Buddhist monk. The point I am making is that Australia is still quite a generous country even though the Idea of a Bhikkhu begging for alms is still quite foreign to there minds... Also fruit and yogurt is quite a healthy meal even if it is your only meal of the day.
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Sweeney wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:45 am Yes, I am not debating this point.
Sure, I appreciate & agree with your posts. I suppose I met Jason on his walking adventures. Welcome to the forum. :hello:
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DooDoot wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:25 am Welcome to the forum. :hello:
Thanks.

Anybody have any Idea of the current whereabouts of Jason, or where he will next be giving teachings?
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Sweeney wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:45 amAnybody have any Idea of the current whereabouts of Jason, or where he will next be giving teachings?
Hi Sweeney. Try here: http://pal.nsw.edu.au/bhante-jasons-aut ... -schedule/
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Thank you very much, very informative!
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Interesting video about Bhante Jason.

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pilgrim wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:11 am Not being critical here but just out of curiosity, is Ven Jason Chan's robe within the range of acceptable colours? It appears to be just off-white.jc.JPG
As I read:
Bhante practises Plain Buddhism – “an attempt to directly practice what the historical Buddha taught – without over 2000 years of commentary."
To me this means, that he does not affiliate himself with any of the current Buddhist monastic orders any more, so I would assume that this color is a conscious decision to look recognizably different; there are pictures of him in different-colored robes (blue and red), so maybe this is also just some discarded material.
The teaching is a lake with shores of ethics, unclouded, praised by the fine to the good.
There the knowledgeable go to bathe, and cross to the far shore without getting wet.
[SN 7.21]
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