what is buddhas saying about buddhahood?

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villkorkarma
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what is buddhas saying about buddhahood?

Post by villkorkarma » Mon May 23, 2011 9:51 pm

how did buddha believed that buddhahood last forever?
one suffer because one hasnt existed long : )

Akuma
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Re: what is buddhas saying about buddhahood?

Post by Akuma » Tue May 24, 2011 5:16 pm

It doesnt. Buddhahood is only existing as long as he hasnt entered Parinirvana. On the other hand side cessation of suffering is supposed to be permanent so the mindstream is supposed not to begin again / ignorance supposed to not arise again. About this I asked here

http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8168" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

but no canonical explanation / logical proof seems to be available in this tradition.

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Re: what is buddhas saying about buddhahood?

Post by Virgo » Fri May 27, 2011 7:46 pm

Akuma wrote:It doesnt. Buddhahood is only existing as long as he hasnt entered Parinirvana. On the other hand side cessation of suffering is supposed to be permanent so the mindstream is supposed not to begin again / ignorance supposed to not arise again. About this I asked here

http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8168" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

but no canonical explanation / logical proof seems to be available in this tradition.
The mindstream does not arise again after the parinibanna of an Arahant. The reason is that all ignorance and craving, including craving for become has been removed. Therefore, there is no impetus for the sense bases to arise again after the parinibanna. Because the sense bases do not arise, there is no rebirth, and consciousness (cittas) which arise at those sense bases can not arise again. Therefore, there is no further consciousness, including perception, etc. due to lack of sense bases for the 6 types of consciousness ( eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, and mind ) to arise.

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