King Pasenadi
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King Pasenadi
Does anyone know King Pasenadi's level of attainment at the time of his death? The extra-canonical Anagatavamsa declares him to be a bodhisatta, and I know King Bimbisara was a stream-enterer at the time of his death (and was reborn as a yakkha) but I'm not sure about King Pasenadi. Many thanks!
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Re: King Pasenadi
Greetings,
Metta,
Retro.
Are you sure about that? Wouldn't that make him Metteya?lotus_in_the_hills wrote:The extra-canonical Anagatavamsa declares him to be a bodhisatta
Metta,
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Re: King Pasenadi
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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
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Re: King Pasenadi
Hi Lotus
I've been reading from http://www.vipassana.info/pa/pasenadi.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Which supports your earlier statement:
metta
Ben
I've been reading from http://www.vipassana.info/pa/pasenadi.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Which supports your earlier statement:
But no other details on his post-mortem destination.According to the Anāgatavamsa (J.P.T.S. 1886, p. 37), Pasenadi is a Bodhisatta. He will be the fourth future Buddha.
metta
Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
Compassionate Hands Foundation (Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • Buddhist Global Relief • UNHCR
e: [email protected]..
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
Compassionate Hands Foundation (Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • Buddhist Global Relief • UNHCR
e: [email protected]..
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Re: King Pasenadi
http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/me ... imet01.htm
Well, it seems that he is different from Metteya. I remember Bodhisatta that will be Buddha Metteya is a bhikkhu.Uttamo Metteyyo Ramo Pasenadi Kosalo ca
Abhibhu Dighasoni ca Candani ca Subo Todeyyabrahmano
Nalagiri Palaleyyo bodhisatta anukkamena
Sambodhim labhanti anagate.
(Buddha Gotama predicted as follows:)
In the future (ten) Bodhisattas will attain full awakening
in the following order: the most honourable (Ariya) Metteyya,
(King) Rama, (King) Pasenadi of Kosala, (the Deva) Abhibhu,
(the Asura Deva) Dighasoni, (the Brahman) Candani, (the young
man) Subha, the Brahman Todeyya, (the elephant) Nalagiri,
and (the elephant) Palaleya.(11)
(11)
These verses begin the printed Burmese texts consulted: Dipeyin Sayadaw, Anagatavamsa (Rangoon: Icchasaya Pitaka Printing Press); Maung Ba Pe, Anagatavan kyam: (Rangoon: Tuin:ok Bha:ma:, 1907); and the anonymous Anagatavan kyam: (Rangoon: Kawimyakmhan, 1924). In this translation, we include in brackets the information the authors supply in their word-by-word translation of the Pali into Burmese. The wording is very close to that found in a Burmese manuscript quoted by Minayeff (JPTS, 1883, p. 37), in Dbu, (p. 334), and in a Burmese nissaya (word-by-word translation), dated 1842, of the Anagatavamsa in the Museum fur Indische Kunst, Berlin (Hs-Birm 3) (see No. 88 [p. 117] in Heinz Bechert, Daw Khin Khin Su, Daw Tin Tin Myint, Burmese Manuscripts, part 1, Verzeichnis der Orientalischen Handschriften in Deutschland, Band XXIII, 1 (Wiesbaden: Franz Steiner, 1979). Dbu has the following variants for names: Dighajanghi for Dighasoni and Sona for Candani; the lines quoted by Minayeff (and cited in Dbk, p. 17) give Samkacca for Candani; Hs-Birm 3 has Samcicca for Candani, all three texts have Palileyyo for Palaleyo.
Re: King Pasenadi
If you read this interesting text, you will see that the idea of bodhisattas was present in Theravada from very early on and various individuals (e.g. many kings) aspired to become one:
THE BODHISATTVA IDEAL IN THERAVAADA
BUDDHIST THEORY AND PRACTICE:
A REEVALUATION OF THE
BODHISATTVA-`SRAAVAKA OPPOSITION
By Jeffrey Samuels
http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-PHIL/jeffrey2.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
THE BODHISATTVA IDEAL IN THERAVAADA
BUDDHIST THEORY AND PRACTICE:
A REEVALUATION OF THE
BODHISATTVA-`SRAAVAKA OPPOSITION
By Jeffrey Samuels
http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-PHIL/jeffrey2.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Kiṃkusalagavesī anuttaraṃ santivarapadaṃ pariyesamāno... (MN 26)
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