Srilankaputra wrote: ↑
Fri May 31, 2019 6:35 am
I really like the words you used, but for me
'Mind in action' - manasikara
'when you are aware of being aware' - sati
idk you may be right but
And what does that consciousness know? Tena ca viññāṇena kiṃ vijānāti? It knows ‘pleasure’ and ‘pain’ and ‘neutral’. ‘Sukhan’tipi vijānāti, ‘dukkhan’tipi vijānāti, ‘adukkhamasukhan’tipi vijānāti.
Pleasant feeling arises dependent on a contact to be experienced as pleasant. Sukhavedaniyaṃ, bhikkhu, phassaṃ paṭicca uppajjati sukhā vedanā.
Consciousness doesn't experience, it is person who experiences. Consciousness is what knows pleasure, pain and neutral.
“These are the eighteen mental preoccupations”: this is the Dhamma I’ve taught …’ Ime aṭṭhārasa manopavicārāti, bhikkhave, mayā dhammo desito aniggahito asaṅkiliṭṭho anupavajjo appaṭikuṭṭho samaṇehi brāhmaṇehi viññūhīti.
Seeing a sight with the eye, one is preoccupied with a sight that’s a basis for happiness or sadness or equanimity. Cakkhunā rūpaṃ disvā somanassaṭṭhāniyaṃ rūpaṃ upavicarati domanassaṭṭhāniyaṃ rūpaṃ upavicarati upekkhāṭṭhāniyaṃ rūpaṃ upavicarati,
Becoming conscious of a thought with the mind, one is preoccupied with a thought that’s a basis for happiness or sadness or equanimity. manasā dhammaṃ viññāya somanassaṭṭhāniyaṃ dhammaṃ upavicarati domanassaṭṭhāniyaṃ dhammaṃ upavicarati upekkhāṭṭhāniyaṃ dhammaṃ upavicarati.
Mental preoccupation. Thought, sight, flavor, smell, touch are mana
One is seeing the sight with the mind, together. Manopavicārāti
is the one word term for it.
Supported by the six elements, an embryo is conceived. Channaṃ, bhikkhave, dhātūnaṃ upādāya gabbhassāvakkanti hoti;
‘This person has six elements.’ ‘Cha dhāturo ayaṃ, bhikkhu, puriso’ti—
When it is conceived, there are name and form. Name and form are conditions for the six sense fields. The six sense fields are conditions for contact. Contact is a condition for feeling. okkantiyā sati nāmarūpaṃ, nāmarūpapaccayā saḷāyatanaṃ, saḷāyatanapaccayā phasso, phassapaccayā vedanā.
okkantiyā sati nāmarūpaṃ. Sati is before manopavicārāti step.
It’s for one who feels that I declare: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’. Vediyamānassa kho panāhaṃ, bhikkhave, idaṃ dukkhanti paññapemi, ayaṃ dukkhasamudayoti paññapemi, ayaṃ dukkhanirodhoti paññapemi, ayaṃ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadāti paññapemi.
i think the being aware of being aware is neither of sati nor manasikara. Could it be samadhi instead?