this anthill fumes by night and flames by day

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this anthill fumes by night and flames by day

Post by altar » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:44 am

just wanted to see if anyone had reflections on this sutta...
i guess i'm thinking about how at night when i lie down my mind goes half to the future and half to distracted elements of the "present."
when one is thinking about the future what can be done? Anything? Or is "fuming by night" and "flaming by day" just to be observed mindfully?

https://suttacentral.net/en/mn23

the Vammika sutta
MN 23

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Re: this anthill fumes by night and flames by day

Post by SarathW » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:03 am

The following link may some help.
>Just as the ant-hill fumes by night and burns by day, we tend to mentally proliferates will all kinds of
ideas in the night of our lives—when we are overwhelmed by ignorance and uncertainty—and carry out
our plans and notions in the day of our lives—in our daily activities involving others. Here, the “night”
also represents our latent tendencies (anusaya) and the “day” our volitional actions>

http://dharmafarer.org/wordpress/wp-con ... 3-piya.pdf
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: this anthill fumes by night and flames by day

Post by L.N. » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:51 am

I have always appreciated that in this sutta, a deity appears to tell a riddle, then vanishes, leaving a venerable monk fairly puzzled.
Sire patitthitā Buddhā
Dhammo ca tava locane
Sangho patitthitō tuiham
uresabba gunākaro


愿众佛坐在我的头顶, 佛法在我的眼中, 僧伽,功德的根源, 端坐在我的肩上。

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Re: this anthill fumes by night and flames by day

Post by L.N. » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:08 am

The bolt, monk, this is a synonym for ignorance. Take out the bolt, get rid of ignorance, dig, clever one, bringing a tool.
Sire patitthitā Buddhā
Dhammo ca tava locane
Sangho patitthitō tuiham
uresabba gunākaro


愿众佛坐在我的头顶, 佛法在我的眼中, 僧伽,功德的根源, 端坐在我的肩上。

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Re: this anthill fumes by night and flames by day

Post by Mkoll » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:15 am

L.N. wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:08 am
The bolt, monk, this is a synonym for ignorance. Take out the bolt, get rid of ignorance, dig, clever one, bringing a tool.
Could you please provide the source of that quote? Thanks.
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa
Namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhassa

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Re: this anthill fumes by night and flames by day

Post by L.N. » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:17 am

Mkoll wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:15 am
L.N. wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:08 am
The bolt, monk, this is a synonym for ignorance. Take out the bolt, get rid of ignorance, dig, clever one, bringing a tool.
Could you please provide the source of that quote? Thanks.
Please click on the link in the OP.
Sire patitthitā Buddhā
Dhammo ca tava locane
Sangho patitthitō tuiham
uresabba gunākaro


愿众佛坐在我的头顶, 佛法在我的眼中, 僧伽,功德的根源, 端坐在我的肩上。

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Re: this anthill fumes by night and flames by day

Post by DooDoot » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:19 am

altar wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:44 am
just wanted to see if anyone had reflections on this sutta...
i guess i'm thinking about how at night when i lie down my mind goes half to the future and half to distracted elements of the "present."
when one is thinking about the future what can be done? Anything? Or is "fuming by night" and "flaming by day" just to be observed mindfully?

https://suttacentral.net/en/mn23

the Vammika sutta
MN 23
Thoughts, similar to speech, are judged for their benefit. Therefore, you can attempt to assess/judge the thoughts for their benefit. If they are deemed to be unbeneficial, they will be expelled, naturally.

MN 19 is a good starting point: https://suttacentral.net/en/mn19

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