How to make realizations non-impermanent?

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thang
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How to make realizations non-impermanent?

Post by thang » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:35 pm

I have three categories of questions which I think very important.

(1)
When we realizing Dhamma facts in ordinary mind, we experience that gained wisdom disappears and re-emerges in our minds time to time. That average wisdom about the realized fact gradually deacays over time if we don't re-contemplate it regularly. So we can conclude that ordinary mind's realizations are subject to impermanence.

Should a person have to realize and know Dhamma facts until the realization/knowledge becomes non-impermanent?
Although he gained some wisdom, how this wisdom become non-impermanent?
How can he make this wisdom non-impermanent?

(2)
What should he contemplate? (after attaining Jhanas)
Should he contemplate dependent-origination and realize that all the things are dependently originated in order to realize Anicca-Dukkha-Anatta?
Or mere Anicca-Dukkha-Anatta contemplation is enough?

(2)
Should he need to realize everything (every-necessary-thing) before liberation?
Is that means he needs more time (may be lifetimes) than he thought, in order to completely know and understand everything?

What do you think about the following excerpts related to knowing everything?
“Mendicants, without directly knowing and completely understanding the all, without dispassion for it and giving it up, you can’t end suffering."
"Bhikkhus, whatever the Tathāgata speaks, _ all that is just so and NOT otherwise."

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Re: How to make realizations non-impermanent?

Post by cappuccino » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:52 am

thang wrote:How can he make this wisdom non-impermanent?
it's like drops in a bucket, eventually it will be full, even from drops

the drops are insight about impermanence, as well as good will

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Re: How to make realizations non-impermanent?

Post by thang » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:31 pm

cappuccino wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:52 am
it's like drops in a bucket, eventually it will be full, even from drops

It's true.
But do you have any idea about how it will not fade after being full?
"Bhikkhus, whatever the Tathāgata speaks, _ all that is just so and NOT otherwise."

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Re: How to make realizations non-impermanent?

Post by cappuccino » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:32 pm

like ice, identity will melt

desire & aversion fade away, evaporate

this will be resisted, at times, & welcome, at times

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Re: How to make realizations non-impermanent?

Post by SarathW » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:57 pm

The way I understand when you become Sotapanna, the Nibbana is assured.
So you have to be a Sotapanna at least.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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