POLL: From one dhamma to the next

Discussion of Abhidhamma and related Commentaries

Which model best represents how one dhamma relates to the followng dhamma in Abhidhamma?

MODEL 1: Rising, falling, without overlap
2
13%
MODEL 2: Rising, falling, with overlap
0
No votes
MODEL 3: Rising, existing, falling, without overlap
6
40%
MODEL 4: Rising, existing, falling, with overlap
2
13%
Something substantially different to all four (please explain in comments)
5
33%
 
Total votes: 15

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Re: POLL: From one dhamma to the next

Post by SarathW » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:36 pm

retrofuturist wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:11 am
Greetings Sarath,

Lower case d dhamma.... not the Dhamma.

Metta,
Paul. :)
I assume that dhamma includes Nibbana.
Hence I change my vote to #5 as any of other four does not apply to both conditioned and the unconditioned.
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Re: POLL: From one dhamma to the next

Post by confusedlayman » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:40 pm

retrofuturist wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:04 am
Greetings,

I have attached a diagram to show four possible models for highlighting how one dhamma may be related to the next in the Abhidhammic Dhamma model.

Dhamma Models.png

I am curious to know which one you consider most representative of the Theravada presentation of how one dhamma relates to the next.

Commentary on why you chose the poll option you selected is encouraged.

:thanks:

Metta,
Paul. :)
rise, fall without overlap from personal experience.

there can be only one thought according to neuroscience (that's why multitasking is a myth). if u think of car and then bus, then image of car comes and when u want to think of bus the car and bus merge image will not happen where car decrease and bus increase and totally u see bus alone. I see car when I think of car, bus when I think of bus. thoughts associated with car and bus is not same. when I think, the thought arise and pass away. it doesnt exist as such. if it exist for 2 moments as such, then image of car should be there even when im not thinking.
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Re: POLL: From one dhamma to the next

Post by sentinel » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:37 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:04 am
.....
Rising and falling of what ? Of the thoughts ? Of the feeling ? Or the perception in regards to the process of dhammas that appear and disappear ? If thoughts it would be quite different from feeling !
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Re: POLL: From one dhamma to the next

Post by retrofuturist » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:05 am

Greetings sentinel,

This has previously been clarified here.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"It is natural that one who knows and sees things as they really are is disenchanted and dispassionate." (AN 10.2)

“Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.” (Flannery O'Connor)

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Re: POLL: From one dhamma to the next

Post by sentinel » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:29 am

I see , I vote for 5 .
The models presented appear arise out of self view .
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