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Re: homosexuality

Post by AgarikaJ » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:53 pm

JamesTheGiant wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:29 am
There is no reference to homosexuality in that sutta.
However, the Buddha has warned very clearly that lusting in a sexual sense is one of the causes of suffering (Saññoga Sutta, AN 7.48: https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html).

While it is true, that only male and female are mentioned in the Saññoga Sutta, reading through the Parajika offences in the Vinaya it is made clear, that the term 'sexual intercourse' is not to be understood to be restricted to human male-female couples (as one Bikkhu found out, as he tried to weasel out of this restriction by having sex with a monkey).

Instead, the term 'sexual intercourse' in a Theravada sense refers to all kinds of intercourse involving genitals (literally, the “urine path” (passava-magga) —i.e., a woman’s vagina or a man’s penis); the anus (vacca-magga); or the mouth (mukha) and encompasses any voluntary intercourse with a human being, a “non-human” being (a yakkha, naga, or peta), or a common animal, even with body parts. It matters not if they are female, male, neuter, or hermaphrodite.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... o/bmc1.pdf

A very wide field -- nobody should say that people in historic times were not very inventive, so the Buddha made sure that absolutely everything was covered unmistakably! -- so any gay relationship would also be well covered.

To conclude, there is no arbitrary rejection of homosexuality in Theravada.
TRobinson465 wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:21 am
I think James answered your question. just a mistranslation. homosexuality is no less moral than heterosexuality.
The teaching is a lake with shores of ethics, unclouded, praised by the fine to the good.
There the knowledgeable go to bathe, and cross to the far shore without getting wet.
[SN 7.21]

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Re: homosexuality

Post by James Tan » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:02 pm

AgarikaJ wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:53 pm
JamesTheGiant wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:29 am
There is no reference to homosexuality in that sutta.
However, the Buddha has warned very clearly that lusting in a sexual sense is one of the causes of suffering (Saññoga Sutta, AN 7.48: https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html).

While it is true, that only male and female are mentioned in the Saññoga Sutta, reading through the Parajika offences in the Vinaya it is made clear, that the term 'sexual intercourse' is not to be understood to be restricted to human male-female couples (as one Bikkhu found out, as he tried to weasel out of this restriction by having sex with a monkey).

Instead, the term 'sexual intercourse' in a Theravada sense refers to all kinds of intercourse involving genitals (literally, the “urine path” (passava-magga) —i.e., a woman’s vagina or a man’s penis); the anus (vacca-magga); or the mouth (mukha) and encompasses any voluntary intercourse with a human being, a “non-human” being (a yakkha, naga, or peta), or a common animal, even with body parts. It matters not if they are female, male, neuter, or hermaphrodite.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... o/bmc1.pdf

A very wide field -- nobody should say that people in historic times were not very inventive, so the Buddha made sure that absolutely everything was covered unmistakably! -- so any gay relationship would also be well covered.

To conclude, there is no arbitrary rejection of homosexuality in Theravada.
TRobinson465 wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:21 am
I think James answered your question. just a mistranslation. homosexuality is no less moral than heterosexuality.
For clarification ,
I did not say anything about homosexuality but just talking about heterosexuality for lay people which is not against sexual relation in five precepts.
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