Abhidhamma Chant vs Abhidhamma

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Abhidhamma Chant vs Abhidhamma

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Hi there,

So i am a little confused on this point, monks often chant the abhidhamma for various ceremonies. Namely this fairly short chant.

https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/ ... anting.htm

And then theres Abhidhamma that makes up the third basket of the Tripitaka consisting of like 7 books and is like 400 pages long. such as this

http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/abhidhamma.pdf

Which is the real abhidhamma that the Buddha was supposed to have said? If it was just that short chant then i feel like it wouldnt have taken him a whole rainy season to say it when he was teaching it in Tavatimsa.

thanks in advance. :anjali:
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Re: Abhidhamma Chant vs Abhidhamma

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Isn't this the same for four Nikaya that monks recite part of Sutta?
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Re: Abhidhamma Chant vs Abhidhamma

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TRobinson465 wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:31 pm Hi there,

So i am a little confused on this point, monks often chant the abhidhamma for various ceremonies. Namely this fairly short chant.
What is chanted in that link is only a tiny portion of each of the Abhidhamma Piṭaka’s seven books. It comprises:

1. Dhammasaṅgaṇī: first paragraph after the conclusion of the mātikā (“matrix”, i.e. the opening summary of contents).

2. Vibhaṅga: first paragraph of the book.

3. Dhātukathā: first paragraph of the book.

4. Puggalapaññatti: first paragraph after the conclusion of the mātikā.

5. Kathāvatthu: a paragraph describing the Theravāda’s opening sally in the first debate against the Pudgalavādins.

6. Yamaka: first paragraph of the book.

7. Paṭṭhāna: just the mātikā.
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Re: Abhidhamma Chant vs Abhidhamma

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Dhammanando wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:34 am
TRobinson465 wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:31 pm Hi there,

So i am a little confused on this point, monks often chant the abhidhamma for various ceremonies. Namely this fairly short chant.
What is chanted in that link is only a tiny portion of each of the Abhidhamma Piṭaka’s seven books. It comprises:

1. Dhammasaṅgaṇī: first paragraph after the conclusion of the mātikā (“matrix”, i.e. the opening summary of contents).

2. Vibhaṅga: first paragraph of the book.

3. Dhātukathā: first paragraph of the book.

4. Puggalapaññatti: first paragraph after the conclusion of the mātikā.

5. Kathāvatthu: a paragraph describing the Theravāda’s opening sally in the first debate against the Pudgalavādins.

6. Yamaka: first paragraph of the book.

7. Paṭṭhāna: just the mātikā.
Ohhh okay. Thank you for the insight bhante :anjali:
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