Classifications of dhammá

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Classifications of dhammá

Post by Coëmgenu » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:29 am

Are the various types and classifications of dhammá (phenomena) in the Abhidhamma supposed to be indicative of ultimate or conventional reality, or both, or neither? That is to say, is the Abhidhamma truly believed to be written from an infallible perspective that is perfectly in-line with ultimate reality devoid-of-delusion?
子念昔貧,志意下劣,今於父所,大獲珍寶,并及舍宅、一切財物。甚大歡喜,得未曾有。
The son thought of past poverty, outlook humble, now having from father a treasure harvest, also father's house, all his wealth. Great joy - to have what was never before had.

Τῆς πατρῴας, δόξης σου, ἀποσκιρτήσας ἀφρόνως, ἐν κακοῖς ἐσκόρπισα, ὅν μοι παρέδωκας πλοῦτον· ὅθεν σοι τὴν τοῦ Ἀσώτου, φωνὴν κραυγάζω· Ἥμαρτον ἐνώπιόν σου Πάτερ οἰκτίρμον, δέξαι με μετανοοῦντα, καὶ ποίησόν με, ὡς ἕνα τῶν μισθίων σου.
Your fatherly due I withheld unthinking, in evil I wasted your wealth; a prodigal cries, "I've erred, father, receive the repentant as serf."

妙法蓮華經 Κοντάκιον τοῦ Ἀσώτου

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Re: Classifications of dhammá

Post by Idappaccayata » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:48 pm

I am by no means qualified to give a reliable answer, but from what I understand it's a map of conventional reality. Albeit a very detailed one. Couldn't it be said that all of the Buddha's teachings are convention? Convention that leads to the unconventional.
The furniture may be exquisite,
And the bars of solid gold,
But once the bird realizes that the cage is a cage,
It finds within that cage
No joy

- Ajahn Jayasaro

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Re: Classifications of dhammá

Post by robertk » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:30 pm

Abhidhamma is the Buddha"s words, so yes it is infallible.

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Re: Classifications of dhammá

Post by Caodemarte » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:21 pm

robertk wrote:Abhidhamma is the Buddha"s words, so yes it is infallible.
My understanding is that Abhidhamma consists of 3rd century BCE and later Buddhist texts with detailed scholastic reworkings, commentary, classifications, and explanations of material appearing in the suttas. Is there any claim in the Abhidhamma that it is infallible? Is there any claim in the suttas by Buddha that his word is infallible because he spoke them? I would think the Kalama sutta alone would imply the opposite, but I have been wrong before.

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