Classifications of dhammá

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Coëmgenu
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Classifications of dhammá

Post by Coëmgenu » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:29 am

Are the various types and classifications of dhammá (phenomena) in the Abhidhamma supposed to be indicative of ultimate or conventional reality, or both, or neither? That is to say, is the Abhidhamma truly believed to be written from an infallible perspective that is perfectly in-line with ultimate reality devoid-of-delusion?
並畢竟空。並如來藏。並實相。非三 而三三而不三。非合非散而合而散。非非合非非散。不可一異而一異。
All three truths are ultimately empty, all are tathāgata-seed, all are true aspect. Not three, they are three; three, they are not three. Neither combined nor separated, neither uncombined nor unseparated. Neither same nor different, yet in a sense same, and in a sense different.

夫三諦者。 天然之性徳也。 中諦者。 統一切法。 眞諦者。 泯一切法。 俗諦者。 立一切法。
The three truths. Heaven-sent natural characteristics. The middle truth unifies all dharmāḥ. The ultimate truth demolishes all dharmāḥ. The conventional truth establishes all dharmāḥ.

摩訶止観始終心要Móhēzhǐguān, Shǐzhōngxīnyào.

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Re: Classifications of dhammá

Post by Idappaccayata » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:48 pm

I am by no means qualified to give a reliable answer, but from what I understand it's a map of conventional reality. Albeit a very detailed one. Couldn't it be said that all of the Buddha's teachings are convention? Convention that leads to the unconventional.
The furniture may be exquisite,
And the bars of solid gold,
But once the bird realizes that the cage is a cage,
It finds within that cage
No joy

- Ajahn Jayasaro

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Re: Classifications of dhammá

Post by robertk » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:30 pm

Abhidhamma is the Buddha"s words, so yes it is infallible.

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Re: Classifications of dhammá

Post by Caodemarte » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:21 pm

robertk wrote:Abhidhamma is the Buddha"s words, so yes it is infallible.
My understanding is that Abhidhamma consists of 3rd century BCE and later Buddhist texts with detailed scholastic reworkings, commentary, classifications, and explanations of material appearing in the suttas. Is there any claim in the Abhidhamma that it is infallible? Is there any claim in the suttas by Buddha that his word is infallible because he spoke them? I would think the Kalama sutta alone would imply the opposite, but I have been wrong before.

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