Drama Wheel

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths - what can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Re: Drama Wheel

Post by ground » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:40 am

Anyway, many topics that are discussed on Dharma Wheel are ... well how to say ... hmh ... very "special" ... utterly aloof from reason ... So that sometimes it may make one think of "Alice in Wonderland".
There is simply no common scriptural basis to approach certain topics and the mainly metaphorical teachings of dominant vajrayana undermine any rational approach but do foster phantasmagoria.


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Re: Drama Wheel

Post by alan » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:02 am

Which topics are "special, utterly aloof from reason"?
If you find something unreasonable, please respond reasonably.

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Re: Drama Wheel

Post by ground » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:07 am

alan wrote:Which topics are "special, utterly aloof from reason"?
If you find something unreasonable, please respond reasonably.
Just have a look at Dharma Wheel.


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Re: Drama Wheel

Post by shjohnk » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:17 am

And when we argue, we are arguing with ourselves really. A bit pointless...

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Re: Drama Wheel

Post by tiltbillings » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:24 am

shjohnk wrote:And when we argue, we are arguing with ourselves really. A bit pointless...
Not necessarily. It may be a way of clarifying one's thoughts about something, it may be a way of understanding a different point of view. Arguing just to beat the crap out of an other's point of view probably is pointless.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: Drama Wheel

Post by alan » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:26 am

Agreed!

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Re: Drama Wheel

Post by Karma Dondrup Tashi » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:34 pm

I actually find strong debate very useful actually since I can instantly discern from both sides what the issues are, what the weaknesses in arguments are, etc. That's why I thought eSangha was a great learning tool for me, even though it was intense.

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