Woo, me too!tiltbillings wrote: The video creeped me out a bit
It also reminded me of conversations with friends when high on wacky baccy, back in my student days at Uni.(Not something I do now)
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Woo, me too!tiltbillings wrote: The video creeped me out a bit
... Oy vey...Linda Clair wrote:“Enlightenment is not a state of mind. It is the realisation of love…”
Circular reasoning fallacy.Linda Clair wrote:What is the meaning of life? Why are we here? The meaning of life is to discover why we are here.
The prices themselves betray her claims of selflessness... What I mean to say is, if she really has transcended her ego, why would she need to be materially satisfied beyond basic needs? Further, does she have any other means of income? If this is her only means, that would only raise my suspicions ever more.Viscid wrote: C) her suspiciously high prices which betrays our expectations of enlightened selflessness
Realization of the true and ultimate "love" is indeed an aspect of enlightenment in many nondual circles.Kasina wrote:... Oy vey...Linda Clair wrote:“Enlightenment is not a state of mind. It is the realisation of love…”
You make a good point, but I'm sure other must have been criticized here before? If not, I'd be surprised.SamKR wrote:I concur with you, Viscid.
There are numerous other neo-advaita type spiritual teachers who unhesitantly claim enlightenment (of their definitions) and charge monies for teaching or sell books. What intrigues me is that their experiences and realizations are very similar to each-other. I believe most of them are indeed "enlightened" to certain truths although their definition of final enlightenment is very different from that of the Buddha's Dhamma. Why only pick one person to criticize?
As someone who was a member of one such circle I am quite aware.SamKR wrote:Realization of the true and ultimate "love" is indeed an aspect of enlightenment in many nondual circles.Kasina wrote:... Oy vey...Linda Clair wrote:“Enlightenment is not a state of mind. It is the realisation of love…”
I am not sure about other teachers but Joseph Goldstein has stated about his experience of realization of the unborn - which is a certain level of enlightenment (sotapanna, at least?).manas wrote: there are quite a few 'western', lay teachers of Dhamma and meditation who, while embodying the principles of Dhamma to a greater or lesser extent, still however make no such claims of 'enlightenment'. For example, Joseph Goldstein, Jack Kornfield or Sharon Salzburg, just to name a few. One's own enlightenment doesn't need to be proclaimed; just proclaiming the Dhamma is sufficient.
Source?SamKR wrote:I am not sure about other teachers but Joseph Goldstein has stated about his experience of realization of the unborn - which is a certain level of enlightenment (sotapanna, at least?).manas wrote: there are quite a few 'western', lay teachers of Dhamma and meditation who, while embodying the principles of Dhamma to a greater or lesser extent, still however make no such claims of 'enlightenment'. For example, Joseph Goldstein, Jack Kornfield or Sharon Salzburg, just to name a few. One's own enlightenment doesn't need to be proclaimed; just proclaiming the Dhamma is sufficient.
Of course she is, and if someone wants warm fuzzy, fluffy bunny and expensive "enlightenment," she would probably be a good option.Viscid wrote: She should be free to teach however and whatever she wants for whatever cost, as long as she isn't exploiting anyone or causing harm.
There is a spiritual documentary titled "With One Voice" which is available in Netflix and Amazon prime. Watch from 8:50 to 10:00. He just briefly mentions it.tiltbillings wrote:Source?SamKR wrote:I am not sure about other teachers but Joseph Goldstein has stated about his experience of realization of the unborn - which is a certain level of enlightenment (sotapanna, at least?).manas wrote: there are quite a few 'western', lay teachers of Dhamma and meditation who, while embodying the principles of Dhamma to a greater or lesser extent, still however make no such claims of 'enlightenment'. For example, Joseph Goldstein, Jack Kornfield or Sharon Salzburg, just to name a few. One's own enlightenment doesn't need to be proclaimed; just proclaiming the Dhamma is sufficient.
He talks about that experience at more length here: http://www.dharmaseed.org/teacher/96/talk/2335/SamKR wrote: There is a spiritual documentary titled "With One Voice" which is available in Netflix and Amazon prime. Watch from 8:50 to 10:00. He just briefly mentions it.
'One should not go about making a business out of the Dhamma' (Ud.66) http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2010/03/p ... hamma.htmlViscid wrote:I'm willing to bet she caters to wealthy individuals who can afford it. I ask this question genuinely: Does that make her a bad teacher? Do good teachers necessarily have to teach at low cost to accommodate as many people as possible, or are they allowed to be so selective?tiltbillings wrote:Unfair? I don't think so, not at a $100 AUD per hour.