From what I've read:
ajivaka did not believe in Kamma. I do.
Yes they did. Gosala was also a pupil of mahavira and most likely adopted some form of kamma
also bear in mind that the original concept of kamma was simpy action, i.e. determinism
ajivaka did not believe in Buddha. I do.
Im sorry but it doesnt seem that you do, you believe in Gosala or Pūraṇa Kassapa
ajivaka (or any non-Buddhist schools) did not believe in role of paññā or drawbacks of avijjā - I do.
Actually most of the indian traditions place emphasis on ignorance and wisdom they just define it differently
ajivaka did not believe that paññā resulted in liberation and that avijjā prevents exit from samsara.
Ajivaka was not just the following of Gosala btw alex it was many teachers
Alex - And I don't agree with them.
But in your teaching there is
A) Fate (gosalaism) - There is no shortening or lengthening, no accelerating or decelerating. Just as a ball of string, when thrown, comes to its end simply by unwinding, in the same way, having transmigrated and wandered on, the wise and the foolish alike will put an end to pain.'
BTW I also remember you saying that dukkha is not just mental pain but the aggregates themselves, which fits nicely with gosala
B) No intentional action (determinism
) and so no morals
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
"When this was said, Purana Kassapa said to me, 'Great king, in acting or getting others to act, in mutilating or getting others to mutilate, in torturing or getting others to torture, in inflicting sorrow or in getting others to inflict sorrow, in tormenting or getting others to torment, in intimidating or getting others to intimidate, in taking life, taking what is not given, breaking into houses, plundering wealth, committing burglary, ambushing highways, committing adultery, speaking falsehood — one does no evil. If with a razor-edged disk one were to turn all the living beings on this earth to a single heap of flesh, a single pile of flesh, there would be no evil from that cause, no coming of evil. Even if one were to go along the right bank of the Ganges, killing and getting others to kill, mutilating and getting others to mutilate, torturing and getting others to torture, there would be no evil from that cause, no coming of evil. Even if one were to go along the left bank of the Ganges, giving and getting others to give, making sacrifices and getting others to make sacrifices, there would be no merit from that cause, no coming of merit. Through generosity, self-control, restraint, and truthful speech there is no merit from that cause, no coming of merit.'
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Sorry Alex but you have slipped into Ajivakism
I have never claimed that there is no cause for purification or for defilement.
The Ajivaka view is rooted in fate and so is yours
If there is no intentional action then "beings are not defiled by themselves or others
Makkhali Gosala did not teach about Paññā and Avijjā. He didn’t teach that these are key causes that can either keep one in samsara or cause escape from Samsara.
Nibbāna does not arise simply due to wandering on. It arises due to paññā eliminating all fetters.
The buddha didnt not have a monopoly on these terms
In your view nibbana does since all is determined and just simply plays out in the grand ball of string of life
I strongly condemn the above view. I have never talked about it. Good kamma leads to good result, bad kamma leads to bad result. There are good actions and there are bad actions.
Alex is refering to Purana Kassapa
How can there be "good" (skillfull kamma) without intention
based on knowing how to act to a situation, not being determined