Virgo wrote:beeblebrox wrote:Virgo wrote:From the traditional point of view there are no more Arahants in the human realm right now. But people can still become liberated. There can still be sotapannas, sakadagami, and anagami. One will attain Arahatta in one of the other realms.
What about sakadagami? Doesn't this mean that the person will return to this world in the next life, attain nibbana in this world... which then makes him an arahant, right?
In the traditional texts many realms are outlined. Generally anagamis are born in a certain arupa plane.
That still doesn't explain the inconsistency that I see. If there are no more Arahants for this world, then how can there still be the possibility of a sakadagami right now? Since that means these people will return to this world once more, and then become arahants? (No more for this world, or any other worlds.)
Does this mean that entry #1 and #3 are the only possibilities right now? Does the people in the #1 have to make the leap to the #3 now? (Hence bypassing the #2 altogether... so that they won't risk coming back to this world and then invalidate the tradition by become arahants.) Does this sound right to you? Or is my interpretation mistaken?