Then why the word "ordained?"oceanmen wrote:not a monk....i wish!!
MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?
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>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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tiltbillings wrote:Ordained? You are a monk?oceanmen wrote:Kim O'Hara wrote:I came back to reply to Tilt's question about apologies but the discussion has moved on far beyond that, so I'll do something more appropriate and make a request to those who are arguing the merits of Islam vs Buddhism: please re-read the last ten (or so) posts, mentally swapping Mohammed/Islam/Arabic for Buddha/Buddhism/Pali and vice versa, and ponder the result before posting again.
Kim
thank you
@titl: i m not Baha'i - born Muslim and ordained Buddhist (which does not make me less Muslim/Buddhist)
Not really. It is taking the ego too seriously that is the problem.our greatest enemy is our Ego
if you dont take the Ego too seriously does that mean you take humility too lightly?
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Re: MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?
tiltbillings wrote:Then why the word "ordained?"oceanmen wrote:not a monk....i wish!!
.....i thought its applicable for non monks as well....
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Humility can be quite self-deceptive, just as can be sincerity.oceanmen wrote:
if you take the Ego too seriously does that mean you take humility too lightly?
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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Not really. Generally ordained suggest becoming a monk. Going for refuge (most commonly mistranslated as taking refuge) is what is used for laity.oceanmen wrote:tiltbillings wrote:Then why the word "ordained?"oceanmen wrote:not a monk....i wish!!
.....i thought its applicable for non monks as well....
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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equinimity between ego and humility or regarding the illusion in them is what u mean?tiltbillings wrote:Humility can be quite self-deceptive, just as can be sincerity.oceanmen wrote:
if you take the Ego too seriously does that mean you take humility too lightly?
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No. Nothing so complicated. We human beings just have a great capacity for self-deception.oceanmen wrote:equinimity between ego and humility or regarding the illusion in them is what u mean?tiltbillings wrote:Humility can be quite self-deceptive, just as can be sincerity.oceanmen wrote:
if you take the Ego too seriously does that mean you take humility too lightly?
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
Re: MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?
do you have the Buddhist sutta of not believing anything unless u do proper investigation?Rather that saying one must read the Koran in Arabic to understand; it would be far better to say: "It is what Muslims believe that to truly understand the Koran. . . .
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Do you understand my point here about the differences between to the two statements? Might you not wonder about the differences in the responses elicited between the two?oceanmen wrote:do you have the Buddhist sutta of not believing anything unless u do proper investigation?Rather that saying one must read the Koran in Arabic to understand; it would be far better to say: "It is what Muslims believe that to truly understand the Koran. . . .
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
Re: MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES?
tiltbillings wrote:Do you understand my point here about the differences between to the two statements? Might you not wonder about the differences in the responses elicited between the two?oceanmen wrote:do you have the Buddhist sutta of not believing anything unless u do proper investigation?Rather that saying one must read the Koran in Arabic to understand; it would be far better to say: "It is what Muslims believe that to truly understand the Koran. . . .
i understand and i agree...hope its likewise...!!
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There is always hope.oceanmen wrote:
i understand and i agree...hope its likewise...!!
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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Hmmm, I've often noticed people leave out the "praised by the wise" bit when misquoting the Kalama Sutta, if that's what you're refering to Oceanmen.
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please elaborate, i dont understandMawkish1983 wrote:Hmmm, I've often noticed people leave out the "praised by the wise" bit when misquoting the Kalama Sutta, if that's what you're refering to Oceanmen.
what is Kalama Sutta and what is "praised by the wise"
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I don't think much of Muhammed. I wonder how people rationalize worshipping a paedophile?
Doesn't sound like a Buddha.... This is but why example of why it would be reasonable to consider Muhammed a twisted and evil individual...
A guy who had sexual relations with a 9 year old girl.'Narrated Aisha: The Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:62:64
Doesn't sound like a Buddha.... This is but why example of why it would be reasonable to consider Muhammed a twisted and evil individual...
"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"
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With reference to...oceanmen wrote:please elaborate
I think you are thinking of the Kalama Sutta. Search on Accesstoinsight for itoceanmen wrote:do you have the Buddhist sutta of not believing anything unless u do proper investigation?