Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths - what can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
pyluyten
Posts: 105
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:08 am

Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by pyluyten » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:02 am

The beginning of annoucement
It was recently brought to the attention of Dharma Treasure Board members that John Yates (Upasaka Culadasa) has engaged in ongoing conduct unbecoming of a Spiritual Director and Dharma teacher. He has not followed the upasaka (layperson) precepts of sexual harmlessness, right speech, and taking what is not freely given.

We thoroughly reviewed a substantial body of evidence, contemplated its significance, and sought confidential counsel from senior Western Dharma teachers, who urged transparency. We also sought legal advice and spoke with various non-profit consultants to draw on their expertise and objectivity in handling this matter. As a result of our process, the Board has voted to remove Mr. Yates from all positions with Dharma Treasure

https://mailchi.mp/dharmatreasure/new-t ... 693097afaa

User avatar
Sam Vara
Posts: 5666
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:42 pm
Location: Sussex, U.K.

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by Sam Vara » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:20 am

From the link:
"adultery with multiple women, some of whom are sex workers, took place over the past four years. The outcome was extended relationships with a group of about ten women. "
That explains the "dasa" bit of his name, then.

pyluyten
Posts: 105
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:08 am

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by pyluyten » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:34 am

Sam Vara wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:20 am
That explains the "dasa" bit of his name, then.
"Cula" "Protuberance", too ?

User avatar
Sam Vara
Posts: 5666
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:42 pm
Location: Sussex, U.K.

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by Sam Vara » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:49 am

pyluyten wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:34 am
Sam Vara wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:20 am
That explains the "dasa" bit of his name, then.
"Cula" "Protuberance", too ?
So it seems! I just thought "small".

User avatar
DNS
Site Admin
Posts: 12608
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:15 am
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, Estados Unidos de América
Contact:

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by DNS » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:40 pm

Sad news, he sounded like he was a well-knowledgeable teacher. Cravings for sense desires is perhaps the most difficult fetter for most to overcome.

http://culadasa.com/about/

User avatar
Nicolas
Posts: 979
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:59 pm
Location: Somerville, MA, USA

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by Nicolas » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:01 pm

Culadasa's own words in response to this letter:
Culadasa wrote: Please do not take this letter as fact. It includes false information, and distortions and misrepresentations of fact. I, in fact, resigned from the Dharma Treasure Board due to irreconcilable differences including their refusal to engage in mediation. Rather than accept my resignation as tendered, they chose to vote me off the Board and remove me as Spiritual Director of Dharma Treasure. A fuller and more complete explanation will be forthcoming. In the mean time, I strongly recommend everyone hold off on jumping to conclusions or engaging in analysis or commentary. We are taking our time (myself and my advisors) so as to respond in the healthiest and most appropriate way with the best interest of all parties in mind. Thank you, Culadasa

pyluyten
Posts: 105
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:08 am

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by pyluyten » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:07 pm

DNS wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:40 pm
Sad news, he sounded like he was a well-knowledgeable teacher. Cravings for sense desires is perhaps the most difficult fetter for most to overcome.

http://culadasa.com/about/
i only read excerpt from his The Mind Illuminated but it had a lot of sense.

And i'm afraid there is a real difficulty in meditation. Even if it is not that easy to enjoy meditating, it is way harder to obtain calm and joy in rela life, then even if is is not that hard to obtain calm and joy in real life, it is way harder to eliminate craving.

User avatar
Volo
Posts: 903
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:32 am

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by Volo » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:50 pm

Does anyone know what is his age?

User avatar
Nicolas
Posts: 979
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:59 pm
Location: Somerville, MA, USA

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by Nicolas » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:37 pm

Volo wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:50 pm
Does anyone know what is his age?
He's probably around 70 years old.

confusedlayman
Posts: 388
Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:16 am

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by confusedlayman » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:09 pm

DNS wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:40 pm
Sad news, he sounded like he was a well-knowledgeable teacher. Cravings for sense desires is perhaps the most difficult fetter for most to overcome.

http://culadasa.com/about/
true. I am sure he is not an ordained monk. there should be a rule which prohibits layman to teach Dhamma. Even monks are corrupt so its not way layman should hold the higher post (director etc) and lead a new community.

I myself will never teach unless I am sure I reached final goal. without me reaching final goal, teaching others means I may misrepresent or I am spending energy for not advancing myself. If we ourself donesnt know the final goal, we should be students and not teachers. there is no surprise that monks are itself caught in scandals like in tibet etc ....
non-agitation is highest peace
living unaffected by other cause and condition to suffering is true bliss
not associating with stupid people is immediate peace
- CL (confused layman)

User avatar
Volo
Posts: 903
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:32 am

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by Volo » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:53 pm

Nicolas wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:37 pm
He's probably around 70 years old.
Thanks!

dharmacorps
Posts: 998
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:33 pm

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by dharmacorps » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:02 pm

Sounds like he is from the Tibetan lineage. I did read part of his book, which is more vipassana-oriented, but found it sort of dry/academic so I didn't finish it.

Disciple
Posts: 394
Joined: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:13 pm

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by Disciple » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:09 pm

Sam Vara wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:20 am
From the link:
"adultery with multiple women, some of whom are sex workers, took place over the past four years. The outcome was extended relationships with a group of about ten women. "
That explains the "dasa" bit of his name, then.
:rofl:

User avatar
JamesTheGiant
Posts: 1041
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:41 am
Location: New Zealand

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by JamesTheGiant » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:22 pm

confusedlayman wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:09 pm
. there should be a rule which prohibits layman to teach Dhamma.
You would kill the dhamma if you made that rule. As far as i remember, Buddha said someone with good intentions was ok to teach, even if they didn't have any attainments. I'll find the sutta if nobody finds it in a few days.

User avatar
Nicolas
Posts: 979
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:59 pm
Location: Somerville, MA, USA

Re: Culadasa : An annoucement from Dharma Board

Post by Nicolas » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:41 pm

(The Gavesī Sutta also mentions a lay teacher with many followers in Kassapa Buddha's time, even though he and his followers eventually ordain.)

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 89 guests