Hi SDA,Sabbe_Dhamma_Anatta wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:13 pmHello Peter,
Thanks for explaining at length. Your answer contains what I've worried about: that is "the possibility of your book not upto the standard set by you", imo.
You answered:And, that very meaning "everything" is what annoys me, considering the first sentence, which set the standard of the whole book, for me:Here 'completely' means, that the book explains everything you need to know to attain Nirvana.
What I'm trying to say is the word "logically" in that first sentence of the preface successfully disturbs my enjoyment of the book.This book approaches the Buddhist teachings from a Western mind that thinks logically.
Thank you for your reply. I specifically wrote that 'everything' is in service of what to know to attain Nirvana.
So from the perspective of attaining Nirvana, I see these questions and their answers as irrelevant. With 'logically', I only refer to the Western mind thinking in that way. Logic can lead one anywhere as it is not objective, although we can agree upon things. If you read a bit further in the book, you will realize why these questions are irrelevant. There is a main thread in the book, and if you have found it, you will also realize why I wrote it the way I did.______________________
Let's try analyzing the very first page of the book "logic"-wise.
- I'm asking myself:Your body is part of its environment because it consists of atoms from the same system.
- Is "consisting of atoms from the same system" the reason for our environment being our environment?
- Has Our environment ceased to be our environment just because of the creation of formerly non existent atoms like ununpentium?
- What would happen if the "atoms" are from another system?
- How about photons?
- Why didn't he say "molecules" nor "sub atomic particles." etc.
Did your body not come from an egg- and sperm cell?
- Anything before the fertilized egg is not one's body, imo. (so, the statement is un-sound, for me).Your body, however, already existed in your mother's womb, and before that, as an egg- and sperm cell, which were also created, etc. Human life is growing, planting and evolving.
If you read a bit further, you will realize that this is not at all what I am doing.
- I want to say "Amen" to the word self-actualization. However, Carl Jung and Maslow the two giants of western psychology were the prime examples of those who have been significantly influenced by eastern philosophies, leading to Maslow's forth force and it's consequences "the atman project", let alone Jung's experiences of psychotic episodes. (the easternly derived western ideas to explain the basics of "Dhamma" is kind of circular reasoning inadvertently, imo. And, using the grand father of "the atman project" to set the basis for explaining the "Buddhist teachings" seems un-sound, to me.)As you grow up, your identity, and thus your ego, will grow. This process, which is made well known by Carl Gustav Jung (1903-1955) and Abraham Maslow (1908-1970), is called 'individuation' in Western psychology, and leads to self-realization or self-actualization.
Maybe you want to read the book in its entirety first, and then you can decide if it is illogical or incomplete or not. That is the only way to find out isn't it? It is only 22 pages long (in A4 format and excluding the preface), so what harm could it do? Of course I am not asking you to.These are some examples from first page.
And, the list may go on...
To conclude, let's get back to the first paragraph of the preface.
Considering the whole tome of the tipitaka containing extensively different ways of explaining the Dhamma to realize Nirvana,This book approaches the Buddhist teachings from a Western mind that thinks logically. It is a guide, which lets the reader penetrate the core of the Buddhist teachings; 'Nirvana'. This guide focuses completely and solely on reaching this Nirvana.
I think it is very illogical to claim:when based on the meaning of "completely" as "everything you need to know to attain Nirvana" as explained by you."This guide focuses completely and solely on reaching this Nirvana."