Dhammarakkhito wrote: ↑
Wed May 09, 2018 10:01 pm
this is not just talking about uposatha.
If you cherry pick quotes and leave out the concluding paragraph, you can make it sound like anything.
"Do not kill a living being;
do not take what is not given;
do not speak a lie;
do not drink intoxicants;
abstain from sexual intercourse;
do not eat food at night, at the wrong time;
do not wear flower-garlands nor use perfumes;
use the ground as a bed or sleep on a mat.
"This is called the eight-factored observance made known by the Awakened One who has reached the end of suffering.
"With a gladdened mind observe the observance day (uposatha), complete with its eight factors, on the fourteenth, fifteenth and eighth days of the (lunar) fortnight and also the special holiday of the half month. In the morning, with a pure heart and a joyful mind, a wise man, after observing the uposatha, should distribute suitable food and drink to the community of bhikkhus. He should support his mother and father as his duty and engage in lawful trading. A layman who carries this out diligently goes to the devas called "Self-radiant."
In the Tapussa Sutta the Buddha says:
"Then the thought occurred to me: 'If, having seen the drawback of sensual pleasures, I were to pursue that theme; and if, having understood the reward of renunciation, I were to familiarize myself with it, there's the possibility that my heart would leap up at renunciation, grow confident, steadfast, & firm, seeing it as peace."
Here he is clearly stating that sensual pleasure is an obstacle to renunciation (monkhood), not to practice per se. Nor is he saying that lay people should refrain from sensual pleasure. The teaching is about how attachment to sensual pleasure is an obstacle to renunciation.
The Kama Sutta talks about attachment to sensual pleasures in general, not attachment to sexual pleasure specifically.
But here we start to approach the crux of tantric sexual practices (again I have to remind people that Buddhist Tantra is not JUST about sexual practices): for a Tantric practitioner the problem is attachment or aversion to certain activities (based on ignorance of their true nature), not the activities themselves.
the buddha never encouraged sex or described it any beneficial way.
Not in the Pali Canon, no.
the dhamma is the same dhamma for everyone, there are just different levels of practice