What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

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What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

Post by SarathW » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:56 am

What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?
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Re: What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

Post by dylanj » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:11 am

I don't think it fits in the jhana framework, I think it is sub-jhana, I have experienced it in a more access-concentration sort of state.
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

Post by SarathW » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:23 am

Interesting video.

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Re: What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

Post by SarathW » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:39 am

It appears Jim Carry touch that dimension.

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Re: What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

Post by rightviewftw » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:57 am

my sister teaches this and definitely does seem to attain Rupa Jhana hard to say if and which because she talks a bit like the guy in video, we dont talk much but it all sounds like rainbow and unicorns to me. I do not think she has attained immaterial Jhana because they do not train dispassion, do not see how it could be possible.

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Re: What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

Post by SarathW » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:10 am

The way I understand dispassion is not a pre-requisite for Jhana.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

Post by rightviewftw » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:21 am

SarathW wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:10 am
The way I understand dispassion is not a pre-requisite for Jhana.
The way i understand it dispassion with material form is pre-requisite for Immaterial Jhana.

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Re: What the equivalent of Kundalini in terms of four Jhana?

Post by SarathW » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:26 am

The way i understand it dispassion with material form is pre-requisite for Immaterial Jhana.
Agree.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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