Hindu Practice Vs Buddhist Practice

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Coëmgenu
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Re: Hindu Practice Vs Buddhist Practice

Post by Coëmgenu » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:20 pm

Saengnapha wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:16 am
cappuccino wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:23 pm
Saengnapha wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:37 am
it is often based on pre-conceived ideas about what we think is an enlightened man and what he/she should look and act like.
only a follower of a Buddha can be enlightened,
if by enlightened you mean Nirvana

if you don't mean Nirvana,
you're speaking of the formless jhanas
If you are honest with yourself, the only things you know of the historical Buddha are your images which you have put together from books and conversations with others. None of it is real, only fabrications of conditioned thinking. Letting go of these images is the practice, no matter what you think or feel.
On the other hand, it's a pretty common religious claim to say "mine" is demonstrable and provable through experiential verification. These "images" : the momentary dhamma, formless jhanas- for many people, at least as far as their words indicate their internal realities, these images are as real as their feet, as opposed to being book-learned theories.
如無為,如是難見、不動、不屈、不死、無漏、覆蔭、洲渚、濟渡、依止、擁護、不流轉、離熾焰、離燒然、流通、清涼、微妙、安隱、無病、無所有、涅槃。
Like this is the uncreated, like this is that which is difficult to realize, with no moving, no bending, no dying. Utterly lacking secretions and smothered in the dark, it is the island shore. Where there is ferrying, it is the crossing. It is dependency's ceasing, it is the end of circulating transmissions. It is the exhaustion of the flame, it is the ending of the burning. Flowing openly, pure and cool, with secret subtlety, and calm occultation, lacking ailment, lacking owning, nirvāṇa.
Asaṁskṛtadharmasūtra, Sermon on the Uncreated Phenomenon, T99.224b7, Saṁyuktāgama 890

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Re: Hindu Practice Vs Buddhist Practice

Post by Saengnapha » Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:08 am

Coëmgenu wrote:
Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:20 pm
Saengnapha wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:16 am
cappuccino wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:23 pm


only a follower of a Buddha can be enlightened,
if by enlightened you mean Nirvana

if you don't mean Nirvana,
you're speaking of the formless jhanas
If you are honest with yourself, the only things you know of the historical Buddha are your images which you have put together from books and conversations with others. None of it is real, only fabrications of conditioned thinking. Letting go of these images is the practice, no matter what you think or feel.
On the other hand, it's a pretty common religious claim to say "mine" is demonstrable and provable through experiential verification. These "images" : the momentary dhamma, formless jhanas- for many people, at least as far as their words indicate their internal realities, these images are as real as their feet, as opposed to being book-learned theories.
Yes, but they don't produce nibbana and the self-structure remains. Jhanas temporarily suspend some mind-activities but this is not what the great masters meant by realization.

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Re: Hindu Practice Vs Buddhist Practice

Post by jmccoy » Sat May 05, 2018 10:11 am

I apologize for all comments I have been made on this forum and especially by me in particularly this specific thread (probably not in any other).
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